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3 Jul 2025
@k900:0upti.meK900If you have that10:34:38
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]oh it needs a reboot... lol10:34:50
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]... assuming i didnt brick the system, at least10:35:44
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]cool, it lives, except the database10:37:04
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]okay, unless i did something wrong, nfs4 seems to end up slower than sshfs?10:44:51
@saiko:knifepoint.netKatalin ⚧︎afaik that is to be expected, it does a lot more stuff like locking and whatnot10:47:02
@saiko:knifepoint.netKatalin ⚧︎every serious network file system that tries to avoid file corruption is going to be slower than sshfs10:47:27
@saiko:knifepoint.netKatalin ⚧︎ if you’re getting abysmal performance though, make sure it’s not mounted with the sync option though 10:48:50
@saiko:knifepoint.netKatalin ⚧︎ * if you’re getting abysmal performance though, make sure it’s not mounted with the sync option 10:48:55
@k900:0upti.meK900You might also need to enable nfs4.2?10:49:27
@saiko:knifepoint.netKatalin ⚧︎I think that should be default?10:50:37
@saiko:knifepoint.netKatalin ⚧︎ my exports just has /Volumes/storage -rw,sync,no_subtree_check,sec=krb5:krb5i:krb5p,insecure * 10:50:50
@saiko:knifepoint.netKatalin ⚧︎and the client uses whatever the best is10:51:23
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]4.2 feels the same10:51:59
@saiko:knifepoint.netKatalin ⚧︎I think it shows the version in the mount command output10:52:22
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]its not sync, though im trying to avoid extra lookups given that, well... >100ms latency between client and version10:52:31
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]* its not sync, though im trying to avoid extra lookups given that, well... >100ms latency between client and serve10:52:34
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]* its not sync, though im trying to avoid extra lookups given that, well... >100ms latency between client and server10:52:35
@saiko:knifepoint.netKatalin ⚧︎ah, are you mounting it over the internet?10:53:59
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]yes, across continents no less10:55:22
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its](not security sensitive, so lack of encryption is fine)10:55:56
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]though here's one thing NFS does appear to be far better at: parallel lookups10:56:30
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]it doesnt do the entire speeding up/hanging/slowing down thing sshfs does10:56:44
@saiko:knifepoint.netKatalin ⚧︎okay, no idea about that, I’ve only done NFS across short distances where the latency was somewhat okay, and there it was alright if you were patient10:58:23
@saiko:knifepoint.netKatalin ⚧︎maybe a distributed filesystem would be better here if you want this to be fast, though that’s also something I’ve never used (but want to)10:59:36
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its] okay, maybe i should explain what im trying to accomplish in the first place:
im trying to debug and fix some code (nodejs) in production, as it cant really be tested (its not nixos, the src/dist dirs are read/write...)
my IDE really hates remote filesystems, so im trying to make it as smooth as possible (thanks jetbrains)
before even trying to do it this way i was making a git commit, pushing to github and pulling constantly, slowing down any attempt to debug things a lot
11:02:01
@k900:0upti.meK900Jetbrains stuff has proper remoting now no?11:02:20
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]doesnt that have the entire "oh but my binaries!" problem?11:03:27
@saiko:knifepoint.netKatalin ⚧︎can you run it locally and have it access the remote database (especially while the remote is running)?11:03:29
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]no because the code im debugging has to do with incomming http requests rather than the db/data side of stuff11:03:57

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