| 21 May 2025 |
 emily | if you really want unmanaged, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006968549282.html | 15:30:15 |
 matthewcroughan @fosdem | I was thinking about just having two networks though, I.e two IPs | 15:30:17 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | to prevent DDOS | 15:30:21 |
| emily | 22 more bucks over the managed one | 15:30:28 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | I was thinking maybe a vlan network would just be 1G and that I wouldn't want 10G vlans | 15:31:24 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | since I still have 4x 1G ports on the bpi-r4 | 15:31:51 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | what does unmanaged mean anyway | 15:32:26 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | does it mean that they are still running linux and just don't provide you with a console/ | 15:32:38 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | * does it mean that they are still running linux and just don't provide you with a console? | 15:32:41 |
| emily | my understanding: switches have a specialized ASIC that does the actual switching stuff. managed has a computer to the side to configure the ASIC. unmanaged does not. | 15:33:50 |
| emily | I believe you can run OpenWrt on some managed switches. | 15:34:02 |
| emily | no idea if it's any good. | 15:34:05 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | I would prefer it to mean there is absolutely no linux, or control plane, etc | 15:34:10 |
| emily | https://svanheule.net/switches/models | 15:34:28 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | That would be the ultimate setup for me yeah | 15:34:39 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | I can't believe they use linux for this | 15:34:56 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | why not just make some micropython/embassy | 15:35:07 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | guess they don't make any money from the feature, so don't spend any time making it any better | 15:35:27 |
| emily | https://svanheule.net/switches/tl-st1008f | 15:35:31 |
| emily | could try and find one of these. no idea if OpenWrt even works well on them. | 15:35:46 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | what even is this site | 15:36:01 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | how do you know all this | 15:36:04 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | awesome | 15:36:07 |
 hexa | the openwrt realtek switch upbringing effort | 15:36:18 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | bookmarked | 15:36:32 |
| emily | huh, they're cheap. maybe i'll get one | 15:36:41 |
| hexa | quite a bit of this has landed in openwrt already | 15:36:44 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | and by extension, if it can run openwrt, it can run liminix, I'd port that stuff | 15:37:07 |
| emily | I don't, I just… spend 5 seconds doing web searches when I want to know things. googling "openwrt switch" and "network switch custom os" will turn up this stuff | 15:37:22 |
| emily | https://openwrt.org/toh/views/switches | 15:37:27 |
