| 22 Jan 2026 |
 Tom | there is btw. #acme:nixos.org | 20:42:52 |
 trix | thanks i was unaware | 21:02:18 |
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| 23 Jan 2026 |
 elisaado | hmm firewalld looks interesting for declerative networking | 22:05:31 |
| elisaado | anyone using it over nftables? | 22:05:37 |
 K900 | Not worth the effort if you want declarative | 22:09:10 |
| K900 | Just write static rules | 22:09:13 |
| K900 | firewalld works when you need to adjust things as you go | 22:09:29 |
| 24 Jan 2026 |
| elisaado | mm | 00:01:29 |
| elisaado | but nftable syntax is kinda foreign to nixos right? | 00:01:39 |
| elisaado | you just put nftables strings in your nixos config | 00:01:46 |
 antifuchs | if you want to write fw rules in nix syntax, I can recommend https://github.com/thequux/nix-zone-firewall | 01:43:51 |
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| Tom | https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/-/merge_requests/2107
A clat in Networkmanager | 09:54:58 |
| elisaado | oh cute | 10:23:23 |
 leona | but also actually nftables syntax is quite easy to understand and use (in comparsion to iptables at least) and for the most common use cases, there are abstractions in NixOS. So unsure if an abstraction in Nixpkgs would actually help | 10:24:40 |
 magic_rb | Or if youre insane you can use https://github.com/chayleaf/notnft | 10:28:00 |
| antifuchs | I tend to go in circles between "this configuration language sucks, write it in nixlang" / "this evals really slow (and the nixlang repr isn't good), write it in configuration language" | 14:41:28 |
 Nico | Things like nftables can get merged from multiple files quiet well, so I think this is less of an problem. frr for example is much worse and you basicly are only allowed to have one file per router | 17:54:31 |
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| 25 Jan 2026 |
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| magic_rb | test | 23:34:06 |
| magic_rb | messages working? i see read receipts | 23:37:19 |
| magic_rb | someone just give me a confirmation that i unfecked it | 23:37:31 |
 Sandro 🐧 | no, we cannot read your messages | 23:54:12 |
