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29 Jun 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily you don't have to look at openconnect for long to decide it probably should not be on every NixOS installation 18:44:51
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyno, we can just make the cuts for installed systems too18:45:05
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)lol, can you imagine … i have this one vpn from university still configured18:45:12
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit is bad for every system that wants DHCP to pull in WebKitGTK or whatever18:45:15
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)says palo alto globalconnect18:45:23
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)and it uses openconnect 🫠18:45:37
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit's okay to have to turn things on :P18:45:57
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)^18:46:07
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywell I agree with ^18:46:18
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)nvm, release notes18:46:22
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut also, breaking a VPN is not as catastrophic as breaking the actual connection at least18:46:26
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)I'd yeet the entire option fwiw18:46:30
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyis there an option any more?18:46:42
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit's just adding a package after your plugins PR no?18:46:48
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)enableDefaultPlugins?18:46:49
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyoh you mean the default plugins thing18:46:53
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyyes18:46:54
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyif we want to do a transition period then we can move it into graphical stuff18:47:12
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybecause graphical installations are what got this stuff by default previously18:47:19
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut it's still not clear how we'd remove it from that without ever risking breaking anyone, so meh18:47:37
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit may be that we want to ship support for some of this on the ISO still18:47:48
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilylike it may be useful to be able to use OpenVPN on the ISO or such18:47:56
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (clat on linux when)don't think the iso is relevant here18:47:59

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