| 27 May 2025 |
 emily | matthewcroughan: tbh, if you want to shop for switches with mainline Linux support, I would suggest looking at the DSA and switchdev devices in the kernel tree, and then try to find switches with those chips. there is more than just the Realtek, though I think the Realtek has the advantage of being in a bunch of cheap stuff | 11:15:01 |
| emily | like, you can also find the Mellanox chip in that super pricey one that way. | 11:15:18 |
 magic_rb | look at the last one, on the images it says compatible with copper | 11:15:17 |
 matthewcroughan @fosdem | What I really want is something I can throw openwrt or anything on, configure once, and leave alone | 11:15:24 |
| emily | I suspect there are options between "super cheap Realtek MIPS AliExpress switches" and "$6k 100 Gbit/s switch" | 11:15:34 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | I just don't want "Super Cloud OS backdoor outdated bloatware" on my switch | 11:15:41 |
| emily | "configure once and leave alone" is incompatible with avoiding "outdated" | 11:16:09 |
 K900 | Just get an unmanaged switch tbh | 11:16:13 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | I would if I could find one, there doesn't seem to be any 8 port unmanaged things | 11:16:27 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | * I would if I could find one, there doesn't seem to be any 8 SFP+ port unmanaged things | 11:16:31 |
| K900 | Why the fuck do you need 8 SFP | 11:16:38 |
| magic_rb | there are unmanaged sfp ones, look at horaco on aliexpress | 11:17:04 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | I want 8 things plugged in at once capable of doing 5GbE each | 11:17:16 |
| K900 | OK so rice | 11:17:34 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | so an 8 port sfp 10G switch seems like the right one | 11:17:36 |
| K900 | What are you even going to plug into it | 11:17:47 |
| magic_rb | https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005006225296112.html | 11:17:52 |
| K900 | Laptops over DAC to Thunderbolt adapter lol | 11:17:57 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | No? | 11:18:03 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | This thing https://www.amazon.co.uk/SABRENT-Type-C-Ethernet-Adapter-Plug/dp/B0DQ9QGQYR | 11:18:27 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | 8 laptops, 8 of these things, it would work | 11:19:03 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | just jack into the 5G segment with these cheap little adapters | 11:19:24 |
| K900 | https://www.servethehome.com/nicgiga-s100-0800t-review-the-cheap-unmanaged-8-port-10gbase-t-switch-realtek/ | 11:20:22 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | I expect this to be loud AF, but otherwise good | 11:20:47 |
| K900 | https://www.servethehome.com/xikestor-sks1200-8xgt-review-a-cheap-8-port-10gbase-t-switch/ | 11:21:26 |
| K900 | etc | 11:21:27 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | This isn't SFP, so probably runs hot as all hell | 11:21:33 |
| K900 | You're going to be running copper anyway | 11:21:40 |
| K900 | Like | 11:21:42 |
| K900 | The hot as hell part is the phy | 11:21:46 |
