| 23 May 2025 |
 emily | does the TP-LINK actually have better cooling? because if not you just have to turn off the fan, right? | 11:30:37 |
| emily | magic_rb: is now a good time to ask about your antenna config? :) | 11:52:58 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | it has no fan | 11:53:34 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I suspect it being fanless means the manufacturer is comfortable with its design | 11:53:51 |
| emily | well the xikestor stuff is made to be rackmountable I think. | 11:55:32 |
| emily | where you certainly want a fan. | 11:55:46 |
| emily | but I suppose if you are putting 10GBASE-T stuff in there then it's going to get toasty. | 12:02:49 |
| emily | thankfully I figured out I can just wire fibre :) | 12:03:02 |
 adamcstephens | Manufacturers only have to be comfortable with a design during the length ofa warranty | 12:04:40 |
| adamcstephens | * Manufacturers only have to be comfortable with a design during the length of a warranty | 12:04:48 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | doesn't have to be though | 12:07:01 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | as you found, there are ways to get below 50C on 10G | 12:07:08 |
| emily | I'm pretty sure even the good Broadcom 100 m 10GBASE-T modules are way hotter than fibre ones are gonna get. | 12:07:28 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | yeah, ofc, but 50C is fine | 12:07:37 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | the normal is much hotter | 12:07:46 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | normally it's 68+ | 12:07:49 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | 50C is an outlier, and I suspect it needs to be 50C or below to warrant a fanless design | 12:08:11 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | or at least safe for human hands | 12:08:25 |
| emily | sure I just mean if you're packing them into every port then sure, I'd worry about cooling. I wouldn't necessarily feel secure with the fanless TP-Link either though. | 12:08:34 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Why would they sell a fanless 8 port SFP if it weren't tested | 12:08:59 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | * Why would they sell a fanless 8 port SFP if it weren't tested in that configuration | 12:09:08 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | it's not like you can add fans to it, it's designed to be fanless without the option of cooling it externally | 12:09:26 |
| adamcstephens | Because it meets their requirements for doing so, but that doesn't mean it will have as long of a life as one with a fan | 12:09:36 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | sure, lifespan, I'm concerned with human safety, not lifespan of switch | 12:09:52 |
| emily | probably they tested it not entirely full of copper modules | 12:10:17 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I mean, would they not have to regulatorily? | 12:10:29 |
| emily | I mean… the actual risk we're talking about is it shutting off because of overheating, I presume. | 12:10:39 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I find it hard to believe they could manufacture electronics like this without testing that edge case | 12:10:50 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | a friend in hackspace has to do way more stringent tests to get approved on his dainty little RFID products | 12:11:07 |
| emily | I assume it's not going to start a fire… but I also assume you want the switch to keep running | 12:11:22 |
