| 21 May 2025 |
 matthewcroughan @fosdem | no linux | 15:54:35 |
 emily | to replace basic operating system services that make serving a web app that can persist state and do upgrades and talk to a driver easy | 15:54:43 |
 hexa (clat on linux when) | language | 15:54:47 |
 magic_rb | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
language Sorry but matthew is driving me up the wall | 15:55:02 |
| emily | ok why am I wasting time on this conversation when I could go touch grass | 15:55:08 |
| emily | → | 15:55:18 |
| magic_rb | We should all go touch grass | 15:55:30 |
| magic_rb | I think | 15:55:32 |
| magic_rb | Including matthew | 15:55:35 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | please do | 15:55:40 |
| magic_rb | No more routers for you today, go hug a tree | 15:55:43 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | I'm just saying that I would enjoy a switch that just had some repl that I could tell it what to do with, that didn't depend on Linux | 15:55:55 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | And that was open source | 15:56:06 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | I mean look at 3d printer firmware, marlin for example, something like that. | 15:56:28 |
| magic_rb | Marlin is horrible lmao | 15:56:42 |
| magic_rb | Okay, no sorry, im out | 15:56:47 |
| magic_rb | Bye | 15:56:48 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | good choice | 15:57:02 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | It's just an example of an independent C program that just tells hardware what to do | 15:57:09 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | magic_rb: question, if you hate everything I'm suggesting, is there anything you do like? | 15:58:25 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | I wanted to try klipper | 15:58:49 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | klipper is where open source 3d printing is today | 16:00:24 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | yeah I haven't touched a 3d printer for like 2-3 years, really, so that's the only reason I mention marlin | 16:00:41 |
| emily | btw you still need a firmware blob for the switch chip | 16:05:20 |
| emily | in re foss | 16:05:23 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | that's fine, I just want as much as possible to be FOSS rather than nothing being foss | 16:19:43 |
|  oddlama changed their display name from Malte to oddlama. | 17:42:03 |
|  @alanpearce:private.coffee left the room. | 18:51:34 |
|  Sebastian (he/him) joined the room. | 22:32:37 |
| 22 May 2025 |
| emily | https://microchip-ung.github.io/bsp-doc/bsp/2025.03/network_overview.html these switch SoCs apparently have meaningful amounts of upstream support | 05:14:29 |
