| 21 May 2025 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | ;_; | 15:02:02 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | https://www.amazon.co.uk/10Gtek-10GBase-T-Transceiver-Compatible-Supermicro/dp/B0BRQ5MDHY | 15:02:12 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | nonetheless, I think it's still a good setup | 15:02:39 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | 68C for the ASF-10G2-T isn't bad though | 15:03:42 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | ah okay that's the right answer then, that reddit thread is gold! | 15:04:43 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | ASF-10G2-T runs at lower temps and autoneg works, whereas the broadcom ones don't work with autoneg | 15:05:00 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | The firmware on the broadcom chip is out of spec, so autoneg doesn't work, but forcing a specific speed does | 15:10:09 |
 emily | "the broadcom ones don't work with autoneg" is not true | 15:12:57 |
| emily | it's the people doing the SFP modules that fuck it up somehow | 15:13:11 |
| emily | the datasheet clearly lays out that it supports everything | 15:13:17 |
| emily | it's just a matter of getting an SFP module that gets it right. I know the FiberMall ones apparently do but they're pricey | 15:13:33 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I'm a bit scared of these rando sfp+ only switches being loud and hot | 15:18:23 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | with ridiculous fans inside | 15:18:32 |
| emily | I don't see why they'd be louder and hotter than something that has to pump 8 ports of 10GBASE-T built-in | 15:19:07 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | the fact that they are managed and not running FOSS annoys me | 15:24:37 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | but I guess I have no choice at this price | 15:24:47 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I didn't expect to spend the whole day window shopping, thanks emily <3 | 15:29:07 |
| emily | inb4 wait how come I can't set up VLANs with this unmanaged switch :p | 15:29:45 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | oh true I guess that might be a possible desire | 15:30:00 |
| emily | if you really want unmanaged, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006968549282.html | 15:30:15 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I was thinking about just having two networks though, I.e two IPs | 15:30:17 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | to prevent DDOS | 15:30:21 |
| emily | 22 more bucks over the managed one | 15:30:28 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I was thinking maybe a vlan network would just be 1G and that I wouldn't want 10G vlans | 15:31:24 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | since I still have 4x 1G ports on the bpi-r4 | 15:31:51 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | what does unmanaged mean anyway | 15:32:26 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | does it mean that they are still running linux and just don't provide you with a console/ | 15:32:38 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | * does it mean that they are still running linux and just don't provide you with a console? | 15:32:41 |
| emily | my understanding: switches have a specialized ASIC that does the actual switching stuff. managed has a computer to the side to configure the ASIC. unmanaged does not. | 15:33:50 |
| emily | I believe you can run OpenWrt on some managed switches. | 15:34:02 |
