| 21 May 2025 |
 matthewcroughan @fosdem | iceland/switzerland/ireland have upwards of 7gbps as the low-end | 11:19:01 |
 magic_rb | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
and clearly market demand for an assortment of dongles that let them connect things to ethernet Yes, but those are not used at home generally. Its mostly office shit | 11:19:02 |
 @emma:rory.gay | ever since youtube changed their bitrates i cant even watch 1080p youtube anymore | 11:19:17 |
 Spaenny | From what I know, most people who are not tech savvy who work on media just use external drives | 11:19:20 |
| Spaenny | * From what I know, most people who are not tech savvy, who work on media just use external drives | 11:19:40 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | There was a random ccc style hackspace in Zurich I visited that was going to be playing with 400gpbs | 11:19:43 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
iceland/switzerland/ireland have upwards of 7gbps as the low-end Iceland/switzerland/ireland are a fraction of the population and no, switzerland still has places where there is not fiber. I can guarantee you that | 11:19:44 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | * There was a random ccc style hackspace in Zurich I visited that was going to be playing with 400gbps | 11:19:46 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | I want to play with this stuff | 11:19:51 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
There was a random ccc style hackspace in Zurich I visited that was going to be playing with 400gpbs most people do not go to hackerspaces jfc | 11:20:10 |
| magic_rb | Were talking about home connections | 11:20:15 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | I mean, there's still plenty of people who work on gamedev/media that can benefit from high speed networking, and they infact do invest quite a lot into their home infra, or they go into an office that has it | 11:20:54 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | I don't think I'm arguing about normal people? I'm not trying to disprove anything you're saying/ | 11:21:36 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | * I don't think I'm arguing about normal people? I'm not trying to disprove anything you're saying? | 11:21:38 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | I just think high speed networking is also pretty normal, and a lot of people use it/want it | 11:21:59 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | gigabit has been slow for these use-cases for a while now, I at least want 2.5gbps | 11:22:31 |
| magic_rb | I agree with wanting at least 2.5 but i dont think "a lot of people use it/want it" most people dont give a fuck | 11:23:03 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | I can assure you that when you're working on nix builds, 2.5gbps is nice to have for remote builds | 11:23:04 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | and that 10gbps will make that even nicer | 11:23:15 |
| magic_rb | Yes, i know, but again, youre overestimating how common even gigabit uplinks are | 11:23:29 |
| @emma:rory.gay | my ISP gives me 12mbps down .... (1mbps up btw) | 11:23:35 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | to the wan, sure, I'm not debating that | 11:23:43 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | but no reason to limit your LAN :D | 11:23:50 |
| magic_rb | Yes | 11:23:54 |
| magic_rb | There is | 11:23:56 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | the WAN here in Liverpool is actually becoming 2.5gbps surprisingly | 11:24:01 |
| magic_rb | Because most people have nothing in their LAN except for a laptop | 11:24:10 |
| @emma:rory.gay | nix remote builders are a pain even with --use-remote-subsititutes | 11:24:14 |
| matthewcroughan @fosdem | yeah it's not path-aware, or bandwidth efficient, hence the niceness from having a killer network | 11:24:33 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @emma:rory.gay
my ISP gives me 12mbps down .... (1mbps up btw) We had to pay multiple thousand of euros to run own fiber line in slovakia years ago to get 100/50 | 11:24:41 |
