| 3 Jun 2025 |
 emily | for the Realtek? it looked like lots of stuff was still in-flight | 21:56:26 |
 magic_rb | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
it's basically that Realtek thing (and the upstream support is incomplete there anyway) ^ | 21:56:26 |
| emily | OpenWrt has a forked OpenWrt kernel for it etc. | 21:56:33 |
| emily | there's one guy upstreaming stuff | 21:56:38 |
| magic_rb | Welp, better than a web ui | 21:57:37 |
| magic_rb | Im off, i need to sleep, im extremely tired, like, everything hurts, barely able to move the last few days, so bye, gn | 21:58:07 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Lemme know how it goes | 22:54:27 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I want this too, but the SFPs are too costly for something that might not actually work | 22:54:42 |
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|  robsliwi changed their display name from Robert Sliwinski to robsliwi. | 18:30:31 |
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 Mr. Defenestrator | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
I spent so long looking at switch stuff Linux supports and the intersection of (mainline Linux support, chip is actually in normal switches you can buy, >1 Gbit/s, <$5k) seems so empty You'd be surprised. Anything vaguely supported by DentOS/SONiC is capable of running a Linux control plane at the very least. I just sold off the last of our Celestica switches at $149 ea. Had 5 running another Linux distribution. `mlxsw` is great, and while the switches are a little more pricey, it's basically turnkey to have an ASIC backed switch capable of running NixOS, or whatever. | 13:20:53 |
| Mr. Defenestrator | https://www.ebay.com/itm/236114008551
https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/sn2010-linux-hacking-switchdev | 13:26:29 |
| emily | yeah, I saw this. but while it's still incredible hardware for $1k, it's hard to justify vs. $120 MIPS consumer switches off AliExpress you can run OpenWrt on | 13:30:04 |
| emily | though $149 is of course a lot more appealing and perhaps I am just bad at finding the relevant models? | 13:30:50 |
| emily | when you say "Linux control plane" though, are we talking mainline? because it seems these Celestica things are Broadcom, and my understanding was that the Broadcom switch stuff was basically totally useless on mainline without a pile of proprietary blobs. | 13:31:52 |
 raitobezarius | i think SN2700 can be sniped for 400 to 500 bucks in some cases fwiw | 13:34:34 |
| raitobezarius | but may still be too high above 120 USD I guess | 13:34:41 |
 Tom | Power Consumption is probably also slightly different between both of those options 😅 | 13:37:14 |
| raitobezarius | yeah and transreceivers are not in the same price range as well | 13:37:52 |
| raitobezarius | especially if you want to do long range | 13:37:56 |
| raitobezarius | same for NICs, etc. | 13:38:01 |
| emily | I thought those things had 10 Gbit/s ports? maybe I was imagining that. | 13:38:27 |
| raitobezarius | SN2700 is 32x100G | 13:38:42 |
| raitobezarius | the aliexpress thing yes | 13:38:49 |
| emily | but yeah as fun as it would be to play with it doesn't really serve the home use-case so much | 13:38:49 |
| raitobezarius | maybe SN2010 has 10G | 13:38:53 |
| * raitobezarius looks at his home | 13:39:12 |
| raitobezarius | yeah i guess | 13:39:13 |
