| 27 May 2025 |
 uep | question, especially if you're only looking at like 4 ports: do you actually need a managed switch? | 11:07:13 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I would prefer 8, but yeah I don't really want it to be managed, the issue is that I only see managed as an option | 11:07:35 |
 Tom | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
The good switches that allegedly run openwrt aren't actually available anymore anywhere other than aliexpress They probably where never really available anywhere else ... | 11:07:49 |
| uep | the unmanaged dumb ones will often pass vlan tags happily, or you can vxlan, as long as all the hosts are smart enough to deal with that | 11:08:57 |
 magic_rb | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
The good switches that allegedly run openwrt aren't actually available anymore anywhere other than aliexpress link to ali? | 11:09:21 |
| magic_rb | im fine with aliexpress specials | 11:09:27 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone |
- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001448339323.html
- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008830860223.html
| 11:10:15 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | But the xikestor one needs some porting work in openwrt still | 11:10:24 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | since that is the 8310, 8300 isn't avail anymore | 11:10:31 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | so that basically leaves only one | 11:10:46 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | * so that basically leaves only one, the tp-link | 11:10:51 |
 emily | "available anymore anywhere other than aliexpress" makes it sound like they're discontinued rather than AliExpress just being the primary storefront for these things :p | 11:11:23 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | they are actually discontinued I believe | 11:11:34 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | and aliexpress holds the only remaining stock | 11:11:40 |
| emily | does the 8310 actually require porting work? AFAIK the important thing is just having the Realtek SoC. | 11:12:08 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Well yeah, why wouldn't it? | 11:12:19 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | the porting work on the 8300 wasn't even completed | 11:12:29 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/17852 | 11:12:51 |
| emily | idk my impression was that the most important stuff was just SoC-level work and a lot of the per-switch things were bells and whistles. | 11:13:03 |
| magic_rb | oh matthew i found the 8300 | 11:13:03 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Ah no misremembered, the tp-link tl-st1008f is the half-finished one | 11:13:06 |
| magic_rb | https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005008131101020.html?search_p4p_id=202505270410069407534404494710000034911_1 | 11:13:09 |
| magic_rb | * https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005008131101020.html | 11:13:11 |
| emily | e.g. https://openwrt.org/supported_devices/openwrt_on_switches_faq#are_there_drawbacks | 11:13:14 |
| magic_rb | https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/18071 | 11:13:15 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | "optical port" | 11:13:38 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | does that mean it doesn't support copper? | 11:13:44 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | by some magic | 11:13:50 |
| emily | heh is it some ODM design? | 11:13:52 |
| magic_rb | https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005005777395543.html also this is the same apparently | 11:14:17 |
