| 21 May 2025 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | ah you want plan9 | 11:07:34 |
 magic_rb | 99% of people are happy with gigabit | 11:07:51 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
ah you want plan9 No i just want linux boxes connected over nfs | 11:07:59 |
| magic_rb | But i do agree with matthew that fiber is cheap, though not that cheap | 11:09:54 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | it's cheap, and getting cheaper | 11:10:02 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | copper is not getting less rare, and it's not getting cheaper | 11:10:11 |
| magic_rb | Its still much cheaper to find a old cat5 cable somewhere in a landfill | 11:10:16 |
| magic_rb | And the switches are much cheaper | 11:10:26 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | fiber optic is also more secure | 11:10:29 |
| magic_rb | And you dont need sfp module | 11:10:31 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | if you want to tap copper, you just wrap soemthing around the cable and observe it | 11:10:56 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
it's cheap, and getting cheaper Well, to run fiber in my new place itll be 200 euros, which is not cheap | 11:10:57 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | * if you want to tap copper, you just wrap something around the cable and observe it | 11:11:01 |
 Spaenny | Well never have to run it again | 11:11:24 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
if you want to tap copper, you just wrap soemthing around the cable and observe it And with fiber you chop the fiber and observe it, whats you point. If you want p2p security you need p2p encryption | 11:11:46 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @spaenny:tchncs.de
Well never have to run it again I may be moving again in a year or two, so in fact ill have to take it out of the floor. No one after me will appreciate having fiber in the floor | 11:12:14 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Well that's the difference between invasive and non-invasive surgery | 11:12:21 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | one is a lot worse than the other | 11:12:25 |
| magic_rb | Most people dont run ethernet at all there days and instead rely on wifi | 11:12:27 |
| magic_rb | * | 11:12:39 |
| Spaenny | Well in that case I agree with you no point | 11:12:44 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | You can also observe fluctuations in the signal when fiber is chopped, and there are protocols that care about this and monitor it, and let you know it has been chopped | 11:12:58 |
| Spaenny | Sounded like its your property | 11:13:05 |
