| 21 Aug 2021 |
 dash | matthewcroughan - nix.zone: lol why | 03:33:09 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | In reply to @washort:greyface.org
matthewcroughan - nix.zone: lol why Because if 1000 people say "that's x" and 10 people say "that's y", the mob wins. | 03:33:28 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | It's x! | 03:33:33 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | 6aa4fd: I didn't say legal, I said politically. | 03:33:58 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | As in you will be rejected. | 03:34:03 |
 6aa4fd | that is a pretty specific and not particularly well-favored theory of truth | 03:34:14 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | In reply to @6aa4fd:tchncs.de
that is a pretty specific and not particularly well-favored theory of truth I'm afraid history backs me up :P | 03:34:30 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Is there a NixOS philosophy channel? | 03:34:41 |
| 6aa4fd | i cannot think of a single well-regarded academic author in history who was a truth majoritarian | 03:35:20 |
| 6aa4fd | i can't even think of a poorly-regarded one to be honest with you | 03:35:36 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Alright, well just because you can't recall it, doesn't mean one doesn't exist! | 03:35:57 |
| 6aa4fd | more people are relativist but that is pretty fundamentally dissimilar | 03:36:17 |
| 6aa4fd | sure buddy | 03:36:20 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I also don't know what academics have to do with my opinion :P | 03:36:51 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Anyway, check out what you can do with SCION if you get time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KO-YP7rkHA | 03:37:52 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | No need for BGP or hub-and-spoke. Just the best path through a network. No IP addresses. | 03:38:21 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | * No need for BGP or hub-and-spoke. Just the best path through a network. No IP addresses, use your own addressing scheme. | 03:38:35 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | You have full control over the route taken to deliver your traffic. | 03:39:32 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | * You (the client) have full control over the route taken to deliver your traffic. | 03:39:40 |
| dash | every society, organization, and network is controlled by a group of people much smaller than the whole | 03:41:15 |
| dash | this is normal | 03:41:26 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | No reason it needs to be normal in software. | 03:44:57 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | IMO. | 03:45:05 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I mean, that's the whole point of protocols. | 03:48:54 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Once they're out there, it's not gonna change, and if you design the protocol with user power in mind, it stays that way. | 03:49:12 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | E.g Bitcoin. | 03:49:15 |
| 6aa4fd | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
E.g Bitcoin. bit coin is incredibly majoritarian, you can forge ledger entries if you control 51% of the miners, that is just not a good example | 04:01:49 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Which is why it has never happened in its history.
| 04:04:47 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | It's also 33%, not 51%. | 04:05:22 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Additionally, any decentralized system has the same limitation, it's basically physics. But I'm convinced you don't know what it means after your statement on it :P | 04:05:52 |
