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15 Aug 2021
@nixinator:nixos.devnixinatori also want the moon on a stick.17:12:03
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhbI really want to try out the bananapi...17:20:01
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhbIt was my initial choice actually.17:20:05
@nixinator:nixos.devnixinatorthanks for the suggestions, i will check them out, see if i can source them18:32:07
@schnecfk:ruhr-uni-bochum.deCRTified
In reply to @toonn:matrix.org
I have no experience whatsoever but the BananaPi stuff I saw mentioned ages ago does look sexy.
Which one exactly? The BPI-R64 seems to be the most powerful as far as I can tell
20:47:17
@schnecfk:ruhr-uni-bochum.deCRTified(http://www.banana-pi.org/r64.html)20:47:23
@toonn:matrix.orgtoonn All of it. My needs are pretty basic : ) 20:52:20
@schnecfk:ruhr-uni-bochum.deCRTifiedI mean, getting something with PCIe and an appropriate NIC might also be worth a try20:53:20
16 Aug 2021
@hpfr:matrix.orghpfrSomewhat unrelated to NixOS itself, but I have a router PC I'm running OPNsense on currently and I want to move it to NixOS, but I don't really know enough about networking to feel comfortable switching yet (no pun intended). Anyone got any resources they recommend for learning home networking for the Linux router use case? I don't really have time to do a full-fledged networking textbook at the moment, so I'm looking for something more focused20:50:15
@hpfr:matrix.orghpfr * Somewhat unrelated to NixOS itself, but I have a router PC I'm running OPNsense on currently and I want to move it to NixOS, but I don't really know enough about networking to feel comfortable switching yet (no pun intended). Anyone got any resources they recommend for learning home networking for the Linux router use case? I don't really have time to do a full-fledged networking textbook at the moment, so I'm looking for something more focused. I know pretty much nothing about firewalls, NAT, or VLAN's which are things I feel like I need to understand to set this up securely and with the features I want, like a site-to-site VPN20:52:09
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhbWhat do you currently have on your router? Ie. what do you use?20:52:35
@hpfr:matrix.orghpfr * Somewhat unrelated to NixOS itself, but I have a router PC I'm running OPNsense on currently and I want to move it to NixOS, but I don't really know enough about networking to feel comfortable switching yet (no pun intended). Anyone got any resources they recommend for learning home networking for the Linux router use case? I don't really have time to do a full-fledged networking textbook at the moment, so I'm looking for something more focused. I know pretty much nothing about firewalls, NAT, or VLAN's which are things I feel like I need to understand to set this up securely and with the features I want, like a site-to-site VPN 20:52:57
@hpfr:matrix.orghpfr * Somewhat unrelated to NixOS itself, but I have a router PC I'm running OPNsense on currently and I want to move it to NixOS, but I don't really know enough about networking to feel comfortable switching yet (no pun intended). Anyone got any resources they recommend for learning home networking for the Linux router use case? I don't really have time to do a full-fledged networking textbook at the moment, so I'm looking for something more focused. I know pretty much nothing about firewalls, NAT, or VLAN's which are things I feel like I need to understand to set this up securely and with the features I want, like a site-to-site VPN20:53:26
@hpfr:matrix.orghpfrRedacted or Malformed Event20:53:46
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhbLike, what features. Ie. When I started out with NixOS, I just got a bare minimal router working.20:55:32
@hpfr:matrix.orghpfrif you mean features, I set up a Wireguard VPN to access my LAN from away and custom DNS for homelab services. In the future I want to try network wide ad blocking and VLAN's for IoT20:55:34
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhbIe. so that I could access the internet, and then went on from there :)20:55:43
@hpfr:matrix.orghpfr * if you mean features, I set up a Wireguard VPN to access my LAN from away and a DNS server with some overrides for homelab services. In the future I want to try network wide ad blocking and VLAN's for IoT20:56:51
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhb But I can't even give you a good base config to use hpfr , I think mine is too specific now... :/ 21:03:16
@hpfr:matrix.orghpfreven if you had one, I'm not sure I'd want it. there are others available anyway. my main concern is I want to have enough knowledge not to shoot myself in the foot and either accidentally make my network unusable (obviously a serious issue) for some period of time while I struggle to troubleshoot due to lack of knowledge, or worse, make some security blunder21:05:17
@hpfr:matrix.orghpfrso I'm looking for Linux networking resources that are somewhere between "blindly copying commands from the internet" and "reading a networking textbook"21:06:12
@schnecfk:ruhr-uni-bochum.deCRTifiedDepending on what level of knowledge you're looking for a textbook might be your best bet to be honest21:11:12
@schnecfk:ruhr-uni-bochum.deCRTifiedOr just start with a toy setup with multiple virtual machines? That way, you can test stuff and build your config as desired (this is IMHO one of the biggest advantages of nix - you can test more complex setups like this, too)21:13:58
@hpfr:matrix.orghpfroof, ok. got any book recommendations21:14:50
@hpfr:matrix.orghpfras for the VM's, how does nix make things easier here?21:15:01
@schnecfk:ruhr-uni-bochum.deCRTifiedThe "default book" for most universities in my country is either "Computer Networking: A Top-Down Approach" by Kurose/Ross or "Computer Networks" by Tannenbaum21:16:19
@schnecfk:ruhr-uni-bochum.deCRTifiedThe former has a - well - top down approach, while the second one is "bottom-up" (with respect to the OSI layers) 21:16:59
@schnecfk:ruhr-uni-bochum.deCRTified * The former has a - well - top down approach, while the second one is "bottom-up" (with respect to the OSI layers) (I personally did only work with the first one)21:17:24
@schnecfk:ruhr-uni-bochum.deCRTified
In reply to @hpfr:matrix.org
as for the VM's, how does nix make things easier here?
You can use e.g. nixops to deploy to libvirtd or virtualbox and orchestrate multiple machines that way. I'm currently writing a configuration for a HPC cluster and have one "master node" and five identical slave nodes that are all created by nixops
21:18:40
@schnecfk:ruhr-uni-bochum.deCRTified
In reply to @hpfr:matrix.org
as for the VM's, how does nix make things easier here?
* You can use e.g. nixops to deploy to libvirtd or virtualbox and orchestrate multiple machines that way. I'm currently writing a configuration for a HPC cluster and have one "master node" (where the slurm administration, LDAP and NFS server are running) and five identical "slave nodes" that are all created by nixops
21:19:14

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