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@hexa:lossy.networkhexahttps://github.com/element-hq/element-call/commit/95b37ea3412777719e6011bb056df4ba8d86959d13:03:58
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ yarn berry13:04:05
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]time to open an issue13:04:25
@ma27:nicht-so.sexyma27so, the yarn berry fetcher was merged just in time...13:04:38
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaok, apparently we have docs on that13:04:41
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]wait we support yarn berry now??????????????13:04:53
@hexa:lossy.networkhexayes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!13:05:00
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]mfw draupnir rejected it because yarn berry wasnt reproducible or something13:05:12
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]or inconsistent13:05:19
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyyes, someone had to write a reproducible fetcher for it13:05:55
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywhich nobody did for months13:07:11
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily(are all the projects that switched to pnpm going to suddenly switch to yarn now? can we start writing a reproducible fetcher for whatever the next trendy JS thing is going to be in advance?)13:07:55
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa

Internally, this uses a patched version of Yarn to ensure git dependencies are re-packed and any attempted downloads fail immediately.

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@hexa:lossy.networkhexa🙃13:08:57
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]oh ffs13:09:20
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit's yarn's fault that they don't support an offline mode (or record hashes for platform-specific deps)13:11:04
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythankfully the work was put in13:11:15
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythe fetcher will tell you if you need to run a command to get the missing hashes13:12:18
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyCargo is less silly about this, so our deterministic Cargo fetcher doesn't need extra hashes.13:12:40
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaexcept for git deps 😛 13:12:57
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyno, our new fetcher handles those.13:17:20
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyCargo does record hashes for them13:17:26
@hexa:lossy.networkhexahuh13:17:31
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythose hashes should all be gone from the tree now13:17:34
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilypreviously we explicitly banned them because Cargo changed their format in the past, making it unstable13:17:48
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut then Cargo changed the format for all packages and we switched over to our own deterministic fetcher13:18:01

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