| 6 Nov 2023 |
 problems | this worries me | 15:55:42 |
 @delroth:delroth.net | In reply to @miloignis:synapse.room409.xyz
I've been out of the Matrix development rooms for a while - are there any significant proprietary modifications to synapse out there? AFAICT several companies and public entities / governments run large private deployments of Matrix, and have basically decided that they wouldn't fund any of it | 16:09:59 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | likely these private deployments come with proprietary modifications, and I expect that this is the Matrix Foundation's way to tell these people to negotiate a contract with them to keep their changes proprietary | 16:10:56 |
 Dandellion | it's element's way of saying it anyhow | 16:13:34 |
| Dandellion | the foundation isn't stoked about it | 16:13:41 |
| Dandellion | * the foundation isn't stoked about it, and is not getting anything out of it | 16:13:51 |
| Dandellion | (other than elements continued existance and synapse being maintained, even if outside of the foundation's control) | 16:14:23 |
| Dandellion | * (other than element's continued existance and synapse being maintained, even if outside of the foundation's control) | 16:14:30 |
 Sumner Evans | In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
this worries me as long as you aren't making proprietary modifications to Synapse, I think nothing will change functionally | 20:13:23 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | as long as you aren't making any modifications to Synapse* | 20:36:23 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | if you're making a modification, you need to also change your modified Synapse to provide a prominent notice of the source code of your modified Synapse to anyone who interacts with it over the network, and nobody has any clue what that means because the AGPLv3 has never been tested in courts to actually figure out what the legal system thinks "prominent notice" means or what "interacts with it over the network" means | 20:37:27 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | the very few things we have to clarify the interpretation of that clause in the AGPLv3 is the (non-binding) FAQ from the FSF, which gives examples such as "if you modify an HTTP proxy that is licensed under the AGPLv3, you should insert an interstitial page or a banner into the proxied content so that users of your proxy (over the network) can know where to find the source code" | 20:39:06 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | (https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en.html#AGPLProxy) | 20:39:28 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | * (https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en.html#AGPLProxy "When users initially start using the proxy, you can direct them to a page with the offer of source along with any other information you choose to provide." is the exact wording) | 20:39:41 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | * the very few things we have to clarify the interpretation of that clause in the AGPLv3 are in the (non-binding) FAQ from the FSF, which gives examples such as "if you modify an HTTP proxy that is licensed under the AGPLv3, you should insert an interstitial page or a banner into the proxied content so that users of your proxy (over the network) can know where to find the source code" | 20:43:12 |
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| 28 Nov 2023 |
| chayleaf | reviews appreciated https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/265368 | 01:14:02 |
| chayleaf | I've been using this since May in my flake and decided now's a good time to submit this when the 23.11 pressure isn't here anymore | 01:17:12 |
| chayleaf | * I've been using this since May in my flake and decided now's a good time to submit this when the code is sufficiently tested/rounded out and the 23.11 pressure isn't here anymore | 01:17:45 |
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