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22 Sep 2022
@f0x:pixie.townf0x error: The option services.mjolnir.pantalaimon.username' is used but not defined.` 17:03:06
@f0x:pixie.townf0xas it's still put in the generated config17:04:10
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa jojosch: ^ 18:14:58
@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her)Hoping to land matrix-crypto-sdk-nodejs later, after I debug Darwin failures.18:44:40
@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her)I can't repro the failure, ugh.20:37:29
23 Sep 2022
@hexa:lossy.networkhexahttps://twitter.com/matrixdotorg/status/157330819060276019213:59:46
@hexa:lossy.networkhexahttps://matrix.org/blog/2022/09/23/pre-disclosure-upcoming-critical-security-release-of-matrix-sd-ks-and-clients13:59:51
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa crossposted to #security-discuss:nixos.org 14:01:06
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa so I guess they'll be reaching out to ma27 again 14:02:11
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa

We will also be working with downstream packagers and forks over the coming days to ensure a synchronised release to address affected clients.

14:02:19
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧
In reply to @hexa:lossy.network

We will also be working with downstream packagers and forks over the coming days to ensure a synchronised release to address affected clients.

yeah, well, that will definitely not happen. Ours is released when the channel advances which can take a day or two.
16:30:28
@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her)I wonder if there's a way we can fast track security changes like this...16:34:23
@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her)We could force start an eval?16:34:33
@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her)assuming there wouldn't be a lot of rebuilds16:34:42
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧One important thing is to get the channel in a state where it advances and is not blocked by some issue already16:37:30
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧Also NixOS is already pretty fast compared to other distros which sometimes take weeks or months for such things 16:38:05
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa
In reply to @sandro:supersandro.de
yeah, well, that will definitely not happen. Ours is released when the channel advances which can take a day or two.
what else is new
16:44:14
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa
In reply to @winterqt:nixos.dev
I wonder if there's a way we can fast track security changes like this...
I regularly force evals for security issues
16:44:37
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa-small usually releases pretty fast16:44:59
@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her)so it can hopefully be faster than two days :)16:45:02
@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her)yeah16:45:03
@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her)small is very fast usually16:45:07
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa🤷16:45:12
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧
In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
-small usually releases pretty fast
I'd imagine people are either using the stable channel or unstable. You regularly need to build the browsers on small.
16:46:34
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧
In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
-small usually releases pretty fast
* I'd imagine people are either using the stable channel or unstable. You regularly need to build the browsers on unstable-small.
16:46:39
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaregularly is sufficiently vague16:47:29
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa * "regularly" is sufficiently vague16:47:43
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧When I was still on unstable-small I was building a browser at least twice a week22:21:14
@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her) How often did you update it though Sandro 🐧, plus -small is very specifically made for not having large rebuilds like browsers 23:27:44
24 Sep 2022
@hexa:lossy.networkhexadependencies might change, but small will simply not build browsers 02:04:32

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