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| 14 Jan 2026 | ||
| * I'd need to spend some time on the implementation of the modules system to be of some help. I don't want to derail the discussion, but I'll just leave here my complaint that nix is lacking a type system and it's being reimplemented at run-time.
Which is a bit absurd. It seems to me that the general feeling in the community is that nix won't get a type system any time soon. Maybe we need something like | 09:18:11 | |
| * I'd need to spend some time on the implementation of the modules system to be of some help. I don't want to derail the discussion, but I'll just leave here my complaint that nix is lacking a type system and it's being reimplemented at run-time.
Which is a bit absurd. It seems to me that the general feeling in the community is that nix won't get a type system any time soon. Maybe we need something like | 09:18:42 | |
Honestly, you'll get much more out of experiments with things like
The check function is what the module system uses to check "does this definition match this type". Every type has a
If you're curious about impl, you can use the repl to find where something is defined too:
I.e., "union" types (like In this way, it'd be useless to declare an As I said before, you can work around this using
This is a proposal for how union types can be smarter, by taking advantage of v2 check&merge. Essentially, the v2 system was recently added to Nixpkgs and combines the checking and merging responsibility into a single function called hsjobeki is suggesting that Nixpkgs could distinguish between a union of submodules by selecting the first one that can handle the definition without errors. That's probably a more useful default behavior, although it may have a performance cost and still wouldn't cover all scenarios. E.g. some scenarios don't have a sensible solution; how to handle a module-definition that doesn't define any options? Or defines options that'd be valid in multiple submodule configurations? Or a module that declares additional options? Or how to handle freeform submodules? | 19:15:24 | |
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| 17 Jan 2026 | ||
I can set internal on an option to make it usable only in nixpkgs. Is there any mechanism to do the opposite, where an option is unusable in-tree but still available to users? The use case is for an option that should be deprecated, but where the replacement is not yet stable enough to produce a warning and steer users toward it. But also, the replacement is widely used within nixpkgs already. | 02:25:32 | |
| warnings | 02:27:04 | |
internal doesn't not affect who can use an option. It only affects whether it is documented. It's effectively the same thing as visible = "shallow". | 12:30:52 | |
* internal doesn't affect who can use an option. It only affects whether it is documented. It's effectively the same thing as visible = "shallow". | 13:05:04 | |
| 18 Jan 2026 | ||
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| 21 Jan 2026 | ||
is there anything more specific than types.str I can use for a version number that I will later compare with lib.versionAtLeast? | 20:39:57 | |
| In string types we have The general solution is | 20:46:28 | |
yeah, I went with strMatching, but I was hoping to have a type matching exactly what versionAtLeast would accept, but I guess there's no such a thing | 20:50:21 | |
versionAtLeast under the hood uses builtins.compareVersions, which seems to accept anything, probably it has a last-resort method comparison that's just lexicographic comparison | 20:53:24 | |
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| 16 Feb 2024 | ||
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| I recently stumbled upon similar issue when working on home-manager. https://discourse.nixos.org/t/is-it-possible-to-define-systemd-services-in-a-submodule/39538/5 The idea is that enabling https://nix-community.github.io/home-manager/options.xhtml#opt-programs.bash.enableCompletion should set I think that module system is missing an option to pass config options recursively up to all ancestors. | 15:06:01 | |
My idea is that nixos config could have a property extraNixosChildConfig and in home-manager bash module I could set _recurseAncestors = { extraNixosChildConfig = { environment.pathsToLink = [ ... ]; }; }. | 15:07:22 | |
| wdyt? | 15:07:26 | |
* My idea is that nixos config could have a property extraNixosChildConfig that gets merged with the rest of the config and in home-manager bash module I could set _recurseAncestors = { extraNixosChildConfig = { environment.pathsToLink = [ ... ]; }; }. | 15:07:44 | |
* My idea is that nixos config could pick up extraNixosChildConfig from childs and merge it with the rest of the config and in home-manager bash module I could set _recurseAncestors = { extraNixosChildConfig = { environment.pathsToLink = [ ... ]; }; }. | 15:08:21 | |
| Not sure about that recursive thing, that doesn't seem necessary, but yeah if there's something missing in the NixOS module for home-manager, that could be added | 15:34:09 | |
| Sounds like an issue for the home-manager repo | 15:34:16 | |
| Yeah, we could add it just for home-manager. But is seems like the issue is quite generic. See also https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/152785. | 15:51:50 | |
| Hmm yeah fair. I don't have the capacity to think a lot about this right now, it's a very intricate topic to wrap ones head around | 15:56:55 | |
| Yeah, I just wanted to bring the topic, maybe someone has some interesting thoughts. | 16:05:23 | |
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