| 4 Oct 2024 |
 Ivan Mincik (imincik) | In reply to @autra:trancart.eu
that being said, a withGrass makes sense. Yes, but we really need to come with a better way of unwrapped package overriding . | 08:28:53 |
 autra | In reply to @imincik:matrix.org
Yes, but we really need to come with a better way of unwrapped package overriding . at the same time, I'd say we can start simple and see after. If we have only 5-10 parameters, just propagating them to the callPackage ./unwrapped {} thing is really ok imo. | 09:21:56 |
| autra | or maybe I'm missing your point though. | 09:22:16 |
| autra | I'm not against a bit of boilerplate if it makes things simpler to write and easier to read. | 09:22:34 |
| Ivan Mincik (imincik) | In reply to @autra:trancart.eu
at the same time, I'd say we can start simple and see after. If we have only 5-10 parameters, just propagating them to the callPackage ./unwrapped {} thing is really ok imo. The problem is unwrapped package being called via let binding which makes very hard to use parameters from unwrapped package. We need to come with something better to make it more user friendly. | 09:25:19 |
| Ivan Mincik (imincik) | Do you have some ideas ?
| 09:25:28 |
| autra | we can just propagate it like that: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/master...autra:nixpkgs:qgis_unwrapped_param
That'll work, right? | 09:28:56 |
| Ivan Mincik (imincik) | In reply to @autra:trancart.eu
we can just propagate it like that: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/master...autra:nixpkgs:qgis_unwrapped_param
That'll work, right? Yes, this works and I am not personally against this approach. | 09:30:24 |
| autra | a bit of boilerplate.... but simple and straight to the point. | 09:30:36 |
| Ivan Mincik (imincik) | If nobody comes with a better idea I am OK with that. | 09:31:05 |
| autra | for me, that works best for things that are actually set at compile time (like grass, if I understand correctly), also because the number of possibilities is limited | 09:31:51 |
| autra | this doesn't really work for plugins that needs a native counter-part, like saga | 09:32:08 |
| autra | in this case, I'd maybe go for a qgisPackages.saga, which would draw the saga deps and the plugin, like we have postgresqlPackages, pythonPackages... | 09:32:46 |
| autra | maybe a bit more involved for us maintainer :-) | 09:33:03 |
| autra | but it opens up more possibility. | 09:33:18 |
| autra | (again, if I understand things correctly about this construction) | 09:33:31 |
| Ivan Mincik (imincik) | In reply to @autra:trancart.eu
in this case, I'd maybe go for a qgisPackages.saga, which would draw the saga deps and the plugin, like we have postgresqlPackages, pythonPackages... I like this idea. | 09:33:37 |
| autra | the only challenge I see, is that we might be tempted to start packaging a lot of plugins then. Exactly like python, which basically "duplicates" part of pypi. I'm not against that, but it might need a bigger workforce I don't know | 09:35:07 |
| autra | might be bigger than we can chew | 09:35:31 |
| Ivan Mincik (imincik) | It would be really great if we could discuss things like that as a team. For long I am thinking about team video call. Not sure if people would like it. | 09:39:58 |
| autra | No problem for me :-) It could help brainstorm, at least. | 09:41:45 |
| autra | some oss projects do regular dev meetings, not necessarily limited to team members btw, for instance. | 09:42:20 |
| autra | but timezones, availabilities and tastes make it so that you'll never have everybody of course | 09:42:47 |
| Ivan Mincik (imincik) | I would be very happy to talk to all people interested in geospatial packaging. I can try to propose it via discourse and other channels to see who is interested. | 09:44:02 |
| autra | And on a completely unrelated topic, about the libxml2 thing, where should I post to ask what to do? Discourse? An issue on gh? On the issue about 24.11 blockers? | 09:46:07 |
| Ivan Mincik (imincik) | In reply to @autra:trancart.eu
And on a completely unrelated topic, about the libxml2 thing, where should I post to ask what to do? Discourse? An issue on gh? On the issue about 24.11 blockers? Asking for solution via Discourse looks best to me. | 13:30:19 |
| 10 Oct 2024 |
| autra | did Someone dig further that story about libxml2? There is a PR removing HTTP support for libspatialite https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/347724 (otherwise Ill try to have a look soon, but can't guarantee a timeline :-/) | 17:17:07 |
| 12 Oct 2024 |
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| 17 Oct 2024 |
| Ivan Mincik (imincik) | In reply to @imincik:matrix.org
Yes, this works and I am not personally against this approach. autra: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/349247 | 09:49:39 |
| 19 Oct 2024 |
 Tim Sutton | hey Ivan Mincik (imincik) could we meet up for an online hangout some time (happy to have an open call with other interested parties) | 12:47:50 |
