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28 Jan 2026
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)I saw it mentioned09:33:39
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)flake compat?09:36:51
@coca162:matrix.orgCocahopefully nothing you have to use would be flake only09:37:36
@coca162:matrix.orgCocaI think I've only seen it once ever and it was for niri I think?09:38:05
@coca162:matrix.orgCocaThough I'm sure someone has thrown out some other example09:38:30
@coca162:matrix.orgCocaYou can also take a look at https://nilla.dev/ as well for this09:39:21
@aloisw:julia0815.dealoisw
In reply to @sofiedotcafe:matrix.org
what if they don't expose such
At least home-manager and impermanence have entry points that work without flakes. No entirely sure if they're official, but I haven't seen them break either.
09:43:11
@toonn:matrix.orgtoonn I do use flake-compat for some Flake-only project. 09:59:46
@delroth:delroth.netdelroth(this discussion is imo precisely why flakes has won and why any flakes alternative without explicit compatibility support for flakes is doomed to fail)10:03:44
@delroth:delroth.netdelroth* (this discussion is imo precisely why flakes has won and why (again, imo) any flakes alternative without explicit compatibility support for flakes is doomed to fail)10:07:18
@shalokshalom:kde.orgShalokShalom
In reply to @coca162:matrix.org
You can also take a look at https://nilla.dev/ as well for this

Looks neat! Although I kinda agree, so much as I personally dislike Flakes, would backwards compatibility be crucial for its success, I think.

Thanks for showing us this!

11:49:50
@piegames:flausch.socialpiegames
In reply to @delroth:delroth.net
(this discussion is imo precisely why flakes has won and why (again, imo) any flakes alternative without explicit compatibility support for flakes is doomed to fail)
I mean flake-compat exists, not sure why keep asking about compat tools that already exists
11:52:33
@piegames:flausch.socialpiegames* I mean flake-compat exists, not sure why keep asking about compat tools that already exist11:52:41
@piegames:flausch.socialpiegamesI first-class integration what people want? One could add a flake input type to npins probably if that's what people want11:53:31
@piegames:flausch.socialpiegames* Is first-class integration what people want? One could add a flake input type to npins probably if that's what people want11:53:46
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothI mean, I know I would want it if I were to use npins, but I don't use npins other than when I contribute to a project that uses it11:54:11
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothso I'm probably not the right person to ask, or at least not via point-questions like this since most likely this isn't the only feature that stops me from using npins personally11:54:53
@piegames:flausch.socialpiegamesI mean npins is fairly feature complete by now and in need of a successor, so I'm interested in hearing your show-stoppers for using it11:56:13
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)vs npins?11:56:33
@piegames:flausch.socialpiegamesFixes won't land in npins, but will help inform any efforts at building a successor11:56:58
@coca162:matrix.orgCocayou can use with it npins just like sprinkles, it only handles the schema part of flakes, just like in sprinkles11:57:16
@lotte:chir.rsLotte (it/its)/Cinny (she/her) θΔ& you’d use both together seemingly 11:57:21
@coca162:matrix.orgCoca* you can use it with npins just like sprinkles, it only handles the schema part of flakes, just like in sprinkles11:57:27
@coca162:matrix.orgCoca* you can use it with npins, it only handles the schema part of flakes, just like in sprinkles11:57:43
@piegames:flausch.socialpiegames (I consider nilla et al merely alternatives to npins – same as npins to niv – and not successors, because they don't fundamentally improve upon the core formula) 11:58:03
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her) so, Nilla vs Sprinkles 12:05:20
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)Why not combine forces?12:05:29
@shalokshalom:kde.orgShalokShalom
In reply to @piegames:flausch.social
I mean npins is fairly feature complete by now and in need of a successor, so I'm interested in hearing your show-stoppers for using it
I read they are no full replacement for flakes
12:15:35
@coca162:matrix.orgCocapinning inputs and schemas are two pretty different things for a single tool to handle, so most focus on one or the other12:20:30
@niko:nrab.lolniko ⚡️What do you think npins is lacking in?13:12:25

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