| 24 Dec 2025 |
 raitobezarius | It will probably down for a while alas... | 12:02:54 |
 Julien | pray for ISP | 12:07:49 |
 Jez (he/him) ♾️ | at least i remembered how to specify a different list of substituters at the commandline 😅 | 12:17:32 |
 ivy | what’s hosted on that cache ? | 12:18:05 |
 Emma [it/its] | i thought cache errors were nonfatal? | 12:21:25 |
| raitobezarius | In reply to @emma:rory.gay
i thought cache errors were nonfatal? They should be but it's the moment where we can discover they are fatal now :-) | 12:22:00 |
 hexa | cache errors are super fatal 😄 | 12:22:13 |
| raitobezarius | In reply to @ivy:faggot.sh
what’s hosted on that cache ? Install artifacts, release artifacts, docs | 12:22:11 |
| hexa | * substitution errors are super fatal 😄 | 12:22:28 |
| hexa | cache misses are not | 12:22:35 |
| * Emma [it/its] looks at having LAN machines in my flake.nix | 12:22:38 |
| Emma [it/its] | nixConfig = {
extra-substituters = [
# private
"http://nix-bincache.rory-desktop.local"
# public
"https://attic.computer.surgery/grapevine";
"https://hyprland.cachix.org"
"https://nix-bincache.rory.gay"
];
extra-trusted-public-keys = [
"nix-bincache.rory-desktop.local:LDcVGNQoaprWeggWcRE1N0jjEqdjOR1D0kOI3fZne24="
"grapevine:nYiZ0Qz9nT7Y7kNC/2NdoS3+J9gwTyWxOvlwZnFgceA="
"hyprland.cachix.org-1:a7pgxzMz7+chwVL3/pzj6jIBMioiJM7ypFP8PwtkuGc="
"nix-bincache.rory.gay:663PIW8xxgIImxLcsokODWI2PHFWXvzJEfjX6TaIjxQ="
];
};
i wonder how none of my non LAN machines never errored out about being unable to resolve rory-desktop.local lol | 12:23:31 |
| Emma [it/its] | * nixConfig = {
extra-substituters = [
# private
"http://nix-bincache.rory-desktop.local"
# public
"https://attic.computer.surgery/grapevine";
"https://hyprland.cachix.org"
"https://nix-bincache.rory.gay"
];
extra-trusted-public-keys = [
"nix-bincache.rory-desktop.local:LDcVGNQoaprWeggWcRE1N0jjEqdjOR1D0kOI3fZne24="
"grapevine:nYiZ0Qz9nT7Y7kNC/2NdoS3+J9gwTyWxOvlwZnFgceA="
"hyprland.cachix.org-1:a7pgxzMz7+chwVL3/pzj6jIBMioiJM7ypFP8PwtkuGc="
"nix-bincache.rory.gay:663PIW8xxgIImxLcsokODWI2PHFWXvzJEfjX6TaIjxQ="
];
};
i wonder how none of my non LAN machines errored out about being unable to resolve rory-desktop.local lol | 12:24:00 |
| Emma [it/its] | (which, for extra fun, is a hosts file entry on machines specifically within this LAN) | 12:25:12 |
|  editorgnome joined the room. | 12:44:48 |
 n4ch723hr3r (putting stuff in your name is cringe) | i use nebula for that so i dont have to fiddle around and it works even if im not on the same network | 12:46:10 |
|  37h4n joined the room. | 16:45:05 |
| 37h4n | I'm getting SSL errors and then the operation stalls and keeps retrying | 16:45:43 |
 K900 | Yes, the infrastructure is currently down | 16:49:21 |
| 37h4n | * I'm getting SSL errors and then the operation stalls and keeps retrying then eventually gives up | 16:56:07 |
|  Chiroptical joined the room. | 17:13:30 |
| Chiroptical | Is there a good place to check for updates on infra being down? | 17:14:12 |
| raitobezarius | large scale downtimes are being broadcasted in https://zulip.afnix.fr/#narrow/channel/3-public/topic/Planned.20downtime/near/16487 | 17:26:25 |
| raitobezarius | but we should put up a status page somewhere and have a better way to communicate those | 17:26:36 |
| raitobezarius | once cache.lix.systems will be up again, we will notify people (or we will migrate if needed) | 17:26:53 |
| raitobezarius | https://zulip.lix.systems/#narrow/channel/7-Infra/topic/x86.20.26.20macOS.20CI.20down/with/3434 is also a good place to check | 17:27:12 |
 EsperLily [she/her] | i just hit this issue myself. i'm rather surprised it would scale up the timeout time so much, the fifth attempt had an 80-second timeout, so the cache being down meant my build stalled for over 2.5 minutes before continuing. is there any way to make the infra at least reject the connection while it's down? | 23:50:07 |
| 25 Dec 2025 |
 Winter | i’m surprised c.l.s is even defined on anyone’s system? | 01:06:30 |
| Winter | is it only used when you use the installer? | 01:06:43 |
| 13 May 2024 |
|  zrsk joined the room. | 13:37:30 |
