| 28 Jan 2026 |
 niko ⚡️ | Now I need to go through all the other zulip servers I'm in on desktop and see what I missed all this time I only checked zulip on mobile | 13:56:05 |
 piegames | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
New channels gets created all the time and people doesn't see them necessarily Yeah, my main gripe with Zulip is that it isn't "all channels are visible by default" like Discord | 14:15:39 |
| piegames | Even Matrix at least has "recommended channels" | 14:15:57 |
| piegames | In theory we could just subscribe everyone by default when creating a new channel but that might have fucky consequences | 14:16:31 |
 raitobezarius | conversely | 14:16:58 |
| raitobezarius | if all channels were visible by default in certain servers, this would probably be very overwhelming | 14:17:10 |
| raitobezarius | but i think this needs to be an onboarding decision | 14:17:15 |
| raitobezarius | like you decide the experience you want | 14:17:20 |
| raitobezarius | (for example, the rust-lang one) | 14:17:30 |
 Lotte (it/its)/Cinny (she/her) θΔ& | larger discord servers also tend to hide channels by default | 14:17:56 |
| niko ⚡️ | At least on discord you're very clearly informed of other channels existing | 14:18:59 |
| niko ⚡️ | And when a new channel pops up you're prompted of its existence and can decide whether to follow it or not. Which could still be too overwhelming for something like rust zulip, but idk | 14:19:38 |
| raitobezarius | on zulip too, new channels can be optionally announced in the main channel | 14:46:34 |
| raitobezarius | we do that but i think that people doesn't have their eyes on the channel | 14:46:41 |
| niko ⚡️ | Yes I realized, but even if I click on it in mobile, there's no way to join said channel | 14:47:11 |
| niko ⚡️ | Which makes the announcement pretty useless | 14:47:17 |
| raitobezarius | good to know | 14:48:15 |
 delroth | also I'm discovering today that even if you subscribe to channels, if you don't also subscribe to topics within those channels they don't show up in combined view / recent conversations :/ | 14:50:29 |
| delroth | or maybe it does and it's just not retroactive? no clue | 14:51:07 |
| delroth | weird UX regardless | 14:51:13 |
| raitobezarius | non retroactive i think yes | 15:03:44 |
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 KFears (they/them) | In reply to @coca162:matrix.org
pinning inputs and schemas are two pretty different things for a single tool to handle, so most focus on one or the other Perhaps both are needed. Looking at npm, cargo and other good package managers, they combine locking with schemas, but they do it in a less awkward way than flakes | 18:38:27 |
| KFears (they/them) | In reply to @delroth:delroth.net
or maybe it does and it's just not retroactive? no clue Yeah, it's not retroactive. I'm subscribed to channels in both Zulips and I keep track of stuff in combined view | 18:43:23 |
| KFears (they/them) | It's hard to keep track of new channels though, yeah | 18:44:02 |
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| 29 Jan 2026 |
 llakala | In reply to @piegames:flausch.social
I mean npins is fairly feature complete by now and in need of a successor, so I'm interested in hearing your show-stoppers for using it as a (relatively) happy npins user, I find json to be a horrible experience | 00:08:30 |
| llakala | i think cli-driven is a lot worse than file-driven, and i'd prefer something that followed the flake concept of a source of truth and a lockfile | 00:09:29 |
| llakala | think npins.toml, npins.lock | 00:09:46 |
