| 28 Jan 2026 |
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 KFears (they/them) | In reply to @coca162:matrix.org
pinning inputs and schemas are two pretty different things for a single tool to handle, so most focus on one or the other Perhaps both are needed. Looking at npm, cargo and other good package managers, they combine locking with schemas, but they do it in a less awkward way than flakes | 18:38:27 |
| KFears (they/them) | In reply to @delroth:delroth.net
or maybe it does and it's just not retroactive? no clue Yeah, it's not retroactive. I'm subscribed to channels in both Zulips and I keep track of stuff in combined view | 18:43:23 |
| KFears (they/them) | It's hard to keep track of new channels though, yeah | 18:44:02 |
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| 29 Jan 2026 |
 llakala | In reply to @piegames:flausch.social
I mean npins is fairly feature complete by now and in need of a successor, so I'm interested in hearing your show-stoppers for using it as a (relatively) happy npins user, I find json to be a horrible experience | 00:08:30 |
| llakala | i think cli-driven is a lot worse than file-driven, and i'd prefer something that followed the flake concept of a source of truth and a lockfile | 00:09:29 |
| llakala | think npins.toml, npins.lock | 00:09:46 |
 Sofie đłď¸ââ§ď¸ (she/her) | This! | 09:10:44 |
| Sofie đłď¸ââ§ď¸ (she/her) | That's one thing flakes did right | 09:10:58 |
| Sofie đłď¸ââ§ď¸ (she/her) | idk, I'll maybe just stick with flakes due to e.g. nix run | 09:11:29 |
 aloisw | nix run also works without flakes, using -f the same way as the other commands. | 09:12:03 |
| Sofie đłď¸ââ§ď¸ (she/her) | ah | 09:14:52 |
| Sofie đłď¸ââ§ď¸ (she/her) | How do I use config inside home manager which is inside nixos? | 10:18:59 |
 neobrain | Running off nixpks without a local clone is a bit awkward with that though, isn't it? | 10:20:12 |
| Sofie đłď¸ââ§ď¸ (she/her) | I get like
error: The option home-manager.users.sofie.catppuccin' does not exist. Definition values: In /nix/store/2d7lnrfk6w9lqfmlirbl3ga9y3rp8k2x-source/modules/home/desktop/gnome/catppuccin/qt":
| 10:20:48 |
| Sofie đłď¸ââ§ď¸ (she/her) | Even when it's defined | 10:20:59 |
| Sofie đłď¸ââ§ď¸ (she/her) | But this works with a different host? | 10:21:19 |
| Sofie đłď¸ââ§ď¸ (she/her) | Maybe because it has already deployed it before but idk | 10:21:32 |
| aloisw | nix run -f '<nixpkgs>'? | 10:27:17 |
| KFears (they/them) | Use osConfig instead of config | 10:42:21 |
| KFears (they/them) | If you want to access NixOS config from inside of HM scope | 10:42:37 |
| Sofie đłď¸ââ§ď¸ (she/her) | thanks | 10:49:05 |
| neobrain | oh right, I forgot that's a thing if you use channels | 11:04:41 |
 delroth | not necessarily channels (which are pretty terrible), my nixos machines are configured to have the nixpkgs they're built from symlinked at /etc/nixpkgs and a nix.nixPath = [ "nixpkgs=/etc/nixpkgs" ]; | 12:27:23 |
 niko âĄď¸ | I personally go through flake registry and inside registry pin nixpkgs to specific revision but yeah the symlinking approach makes you not reliant on flakes which some may consider desirable | 12:34:05 |
 Coca | Would it be fine to have to "sync" any edits to the source of truth as a separate action from evaluating the sources? The nice thing with flakes is that they can reflect the changes in flakes.nix without you needing to explicitly tell it to do so as the commands are built to handle it, and I'm not sure if not having that ability would make this worth it. | 13:48:34 |
| neobrain | TIL | 14:56:55 |
| neobrain | Am I wrong to assume that using the nix command CLI without flakes is rather niche and kind of an afterthought?
Maybe I'm just not used to it, but it seems like you really have to go out of your way (in a non-obvious manner) to use it like that | 14:59:01 |
| Coca | https://piegames.de/dumps/pinning-nixos-with-npins-revisited/ :v | 14:59:50 |
