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8 Feb 2022
akadude	This works! General question: is there a place where I can find full documentation on these things? Like, if I was writing a buildscript in Shake, haddock+official tutorial would be pretty much everything I need. But in Nix's case, even https://nixos.org/manual/nixpkgs/stable/#compiling-rust-applications-with-cargo doesn't say anything about `makeRustPlatform` and what kind of keys it accepts. Ideally, I think, I want typed documentation :)	11:01:35
akadude	Also, the manual mentions `carnix`, but you didn't. Is there something wrong with it? I want to give it a try, since my current default.nix doesn't cache at all	11:06:58
Zhaofeng Li	In reply to @akadude:matrix.org This works! General question: is there a place where I can find full documentation on these things? Like, if I was writing a buildscript in Shake, haddock+official tutorial would be pretty much everything I need. But in Nix's case, even https://nixos.org/manual/nixpkgs/stable/#compiling-rust-applications-with-cargo doesn't say anything about `makeRustPlatform` and what kind of keys it accepts. Ideally, I think, I want typed documentation :) Sadly the documentations can be pretty hit-and-miss and you often need to read the soruces. In this case I think it's very valuable to have some docs for `makeRustPlatform` and you can send a PR.	17:35:29
Zhaofeng Li	In reply to @akadude:matrix.org Also, the manual mentions `carnix`, but you didn't. Is there something wrong with it? I want to give it a try, since my current default.nix doesn't cache at all I think it was one of the earlier attempts and no longer maintained: https://github.com/nix-community/carnix	17:36:33
9 Feb 2022
Pol	In reply to @mixedCase:matrix.org Hey everyone. I'm trying to start a Rust project and would like to have Nix working from the start. Is there any boilerplate for this that's more up to date than https://github.com/srid/rust-nix-template? yes ! https://github.com/tkellogg/dura <- see there the `flake.nix`. Also, if you would like to hack into rust in a few minutes from any Nix powered machine, just do: `nix develop github:loophp/rust-shell#stable-default`	17:41:52
Pol	Find more documentation about loophp/rust-shell here: https://github.com/loophp/rust-shell	17:43:56
Andrés Rodríguez	In reply to @drupol:matrix.org yes ! https://github.com/tkellogg/dura <- see there the `flake.nix`. Also, if you would like to hack into rust in a few minutes from any Nix powered machine, just do: `nix develop github:loophp/rust-shell#stable-default` Oooh! Thanks for looping me in! So that means naersk is now fully deprecated by this nixpkgs module?	17:44:36
Pol	You're welcome! About Naersk, I never said that :)	17:44:58
Pol	I don't even know if it is or not.	17:45:08
Pol	TBH, loophp/rust-shell is very handy for me and my colleagues to quickly hack with Rust and Idea Ultimate.	17:46:12
Andrés Rodríguez	Well, don't know about fully replacing Naersk, but I just tried it out and my project builds just fine with this instead of Naersk, so I'm going to stick with it at least for the moment :D Thanks again!	17:54:53
Mark	naersk and rustPlatform.buildRustPackage both work fine, just bit different	18:24:41
Mark	naersk is similar to carnix, but uses IFD instead of nix codegen iirc - both download crates using nix	18:25:25
Mark	rustPlatform.buildRustPackage vendors everything into one big tarball	18:25:47
Mark	if you have many rust projects sharing same dependencies, you could benefit more from naersk	18:26:19
Mark	but then again storage is somewhat cheap	18:26:41
jonringer	If it's out-of-tree code, you can do `rustPlatform.buildRustPackage` + `cargoFile`, so you don't need FOds	18:45:04
jonringer	the main thing with nixpkgs is that it had `restrict-eval`, so you can't do something like https://github.com/jonringer/nix-template/blob/4d852a1f72b5a8c0d79b8e6b7d5809c66414c12d/nix/nix-template.nix#L8	18:45:52
jonringer	* the main thing with nixpkgs is that it has `restrict-eval`, so you can't do something like https://github.com/jonringer/nix-template/blob/4d852a1f72b5a8c0d79b8e6b7d5809c66414c12d/nix/nix-template.nix#L8	18:46:09
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10 Feb 2022
	x10an14 joined the room.	11:33:17
x10an14	Is there any "low barrier of entry" flake template one can utilize to get a flaked rust nix project where direnv/nix develop works - and appends to $PATH, as opposed to overwriting it? (my experience with naersk) Gives (maybe even documents) an easy-to-find list where one can add nix packages such as `cargo-edit`?	12:20:59
x10an14	I've been looking at the below, and I feel like they're out of my competency/comfort zone: https://github.com/yusdacra/nix-cargo-integration https://github.com/numtide/devshell https://github.com/nmattia/naersk https://github.com/loophp/rust-shell/	12:22:40
tomberek	x10an14: it's not a template, but I've been hacking on this project and it's been nice, should be easy to adopt. https://github.com/kamadorueda/alejandra/blob/main/flake.nix	14:54:14
x10an14	In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org x10an14: it's not a template, but I've been hacking on this project and it's been nice, should be easy to adopt. https://github.com/kamadorueda/alejandra/blob/main/flake.nix Thanks! I'll take a closer look later today =) This is where I ended up meanwhile after lots of bashing forehead against the dreaded learning curve's wall: https://git.sr.ht/~x10an14/pass-steam/tree/main/item/flake.nix (Not sure I really understand it yet, but it works for most. Just breaks bash-completion unfortunately).	14:58:30
11 Feb 2022
x10an14	Anyone here willing to help me along debugging/figuring out Windows cross-compile? https://paste.sr.ht/~x10an14/1f03145beafb08f682f88b414bf174a7c2491504 I've searched and found some tips at both fenix and naersk, with the respective fixes/suggestions mentioned in my `flake.nix` to no avail =/	14:47:12
tomberek	x10an14: i was going to have some office hours this afternoon and also working on getting rust to cross compile something to musl. Haven't done windows yet, but would be good to clarify.	18:09:08
tomberek	x10an14: available?	22:27:35
x10an14	In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org x10an14: available? In an hour or two? Not right now =( Thanks for reaching out though!	22:28:54
x10an14	Are the office hours gonna be updated here (or somewhere else) moving forwards? https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nix-office-hours/11945/45	22:29:33

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