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 Alyssa Ross | You can demonstrate this if upstream is unaware by pointing to any of the popular -sys crates. | 06:48:06 |
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| 8 Apr 2026 |
 mach50 | general rust question.
what would be a proper way to store my app configs in a human redable format, and which format should i pick? | 03:21:15 |
 Charles | User programs: xdg base dirs spec
System programs: take a command line argument of the path to the config file
For formats, maybe have a look at KDL, it's neat | 03:23:55 |
 Ralith | is that alive again? last I heard the maintainer crashed out after setting up a harassment campaign against AI users | 03:34:06 |
| Ralith | often folks default to toml because it's not too weird and Rust has good tools for it | 03:34:53 |
 aphasic | corn is very nixlike | 04:18:25 |
| aphasic | https://cornlang.dev/ | 04:18:46 |
| aphasic | i like it | 04:18:50 |
| aphasic | no actual nix generator though 😅 | 04:19:23 |
| aphasic | ime kdl is kind of a mess and maps horrendously from nix | 04:19:30 |
| aphasic | not that there isn't code to do kdl->nix, there is, but you have to more or less manually serialise with it because their syntax and features are so disparate | 04:20:24 |
| aphasic | * not that there isn't code to do nix->kdl, there is, but you have to more or less manually serialise with it because their syntax and features are so disparate | 04:20:40 |
 Marien Zwart | If your audience is not nix users, a boring format like TOML is usually better (and if your audience is nix users maybe don't use kdl, I don't know exactly why but there's a home-manager module (for niri) stuck on essentially "the kdl generator is not good enough")) | 04:21:45 |
| Marien Zwart | * If your audience is not nix users, a boring format like TOML is usually better (and if your audience is nix users maybe don't use kdl, I don't know exactly why but there's a home-manager module (for niri) stuck on essentially "the kdl generator is not good enough") | 04:22:09 |
| Charles | In reply to @ralith:ralith.com
is that alive again? last I heard the maintainer crashed out after setting up a harassment campaign against AI users I am not sure I agree with that description of events. But either way KDL has more than one person with the commit bit | 04:49:32 |
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 Pol | Adding it to nixpkgs. | 18:33:40 |
| Pol | * Adding it to nixpkgs. Edit: done at https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/509058, review welcome | 18:58:32 |
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| 15 Apr 2026 |
 EsperLily [she/her] | i just noticed that my recent nixpkgs update (from 2026-01-23 to 2026-04-01) caused my system closure to start including cargo-bootstrap (which itself includes rustc-bootstrap). This seems rather surprising, that's an extra 623MiB added to the closure. Is this an issue folks are aware of? | 00:04:24 |
 Winter | bleh. not to my knowledge. what depends on that, EsperLily [she/her]? | 00:08:11 |
| EsperLily [she/her] | cargo does | 00:08:22 |
| EsperLily [she/her] | 
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| Winter | not great | 00:09:03 |
