| 25 Apr 2026 |
 Lisanna | Tbh I'm surprised stdenv even has a meta, like, it's not a package, should lib also have a meta? | 20:28:21 |
 Sigmanificient | nix-repl> stdenv
«derivation /nix/store/q2xn5647kadsgpz40xcmjssa0pmdmiwi-stdenv-linux.drv»
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| Lisanna | Wait what | 20:30:23 |
| Sigmanificient | 😄 | 20:35:30 |
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 dish [Fox/It/She] | woohoo gcc 16 release | 15:31:01 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | we can finally compile all those algol68 programs | 15:37:00 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | notable that it moves from default cpp17 to cpp20 | 15:37:19 |
 whispers [& it/fae] | init at https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/515185 | 23:59:55 |
| 1 May 2026 |
| Sigmanificient | god i still use gcc 8.4.0 at work 😭 | 11:03:07 |
| Sigmanificient | * god i still use gcc 8.4.0 at work 😭
And yes, C++ | 11:15:41 |
| llakala | i'd appreciate a look at https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/513858 when people have a chance. I have several other similar PRs up, but this one gives the largest stats improvement, so I thought I'd start with it <3 | 17:03:30 |
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 siraben | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/517360 | 16:17:11 |
| siraben | found flakiness while iterating on making bootstrap faster | 16:17:25 |
| siraben | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/517368 | 17:06:15 |
| siraben | dish [Fox/It/She]: | 17:06:17 |
| siraben | * cc: dish [Fox/It/She] | 17:06:28 |
| siraben | also we can relax the intermediate gcc from 10 to 7.5, end to end still compiles up to gcc15 https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/517369 | 17:09:20 |
| siraben | ah looks like live-bootstrap wants gcc 10 for future risc-v support, so we probably shouldn't break from them with 7.5 | 17:14:09 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | yeah ideally we have as many architectures supported as possible | 17:14:23 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | we don't strictly follow live-bootstrap since their bootstrap is a lot more aggressive in removing binaries and pre-generated files(see the automake/autoconf dance they have to do in order to bootstrap up versions) but they are definitely a large source of bootstrapping knowledge along with guix's bootstrap | 17:15:10 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | In reply to @siraben:matrix.org
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/517368 looking at that PR, will submit review comments later once github is actually working again since adding review comments is broken rn 🙃 | 17:26:36 |
