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systemd in NixOs's stage 1, replacing the current bash tooling https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/projects/5127 Servers

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24 Apr 2023
@aktaboot:tchncs.de@aktaboot:tchncs.dewhere does the withCruptsetup come from ?22:04:13
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgI think at this point we need a feature matrix system22:04:15
@lily:lily.flowers@lily:lily.flowers(since obviously adding more combinations, like systemdStage1NetworkCryptsetup would be kinda dumb)22:04:19
@lily:lily.flowers@lily:lily.flowers
In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
I think at this point we need a feature matrix system
Yeah that was my thought
22:04:25
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org aktaboot: it's from where systemdStage1 is defined in all-packages.nix 22:04:42
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org Lily Foster: Yea I think we should turn the with* things into nix options and then cache the most common configurations 22:05:00
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org * Lily Foster: Yea I think we should turn some of the with* things into nix options and then cache the most common configurations 22:05:18
@lily:lily.flowers@lily:lily.flowersYeah, I'll agree to that22:05:59
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org or... hm... Actually, just using pkgs.systemd is barely bigger than the current systemdStage1. So maybe we have a minimal and we have a full 22:06:11
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.organd leave it at that22:06:14
@lily:lily.flowers@lily:lily.flowers How barely? I'd be okay with just replacing systemdStage1 and systemdStage1Network with just systemd if the size difference is minimal (like within a megabyte or so) 22:07:22
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgIt is within a megabyte22:07:34
@lily:lily.flowers@lily:lily.flowersYeah, no reason to keep the separation then I guess22:07:53
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgoof but enabling cryptsetup stuff just to enable networking stuff is a bummer, adding a bunch of extra unneeded space22:09:14
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgbut that should get fixed by the smarter condition I guess22:09:26
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orglet me try that22:09:27
@aktaboot:tchncs.de@aktaboot:tchncs.deis it me, or we could use withFido2 and withTpm2tss in the initrd.nix ?22:09:29
@aktaboot:tchncs.de@aktaboot:tchncs.debut that would basically be withCryptsetup, I guess22:11:16
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgI need to just make a complete matrix of these sizes to analyze it....22:13:24
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgRedacted or Malformed Event22:55:27
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgI'll convert that to a gist...22:56:34
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgOk here are the results, along with a necessary nixpkgs patch file: https://gist.github.com/ElvishJerricco/ca36d26fd30b78b211aea10604b9885e22:57:59
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org(note that tpm2, fido2, and luks flags are all redundant unless accompanied by cryptsetup flag)23:09:05
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgActually, I edited it with some fancy code to remove the redundant ones and include the non-systemd ones23:34:57
25 Apr 2023
@mlyx:matrix.org@mlyx:matrix.orghttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/modules/tasks/lvm.nix Can we disable lvm by default? For those who don't use lvm, it adds lots of unnecessary stuff in initrd.00:22:43
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org mlyx: We have actually have a PR for that: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/183314 00:25:19
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org(it says swraid but it also does lvm, and we probably want to do bcache in there too)00:25:35
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgactualy, hm, it looks like that PR doesn't actually disable LVM depending on stateVersion like it does for swraid... so there's a reason it's not merged :P00:26:54
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org
In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
Ok here are the results, along with a necessary nixpkgs patch file: https://gist.github.com/ElvishJerricco/ca36d26fd30b78b211aea10604b9885e
So, to me it kinda looks like once you bring in either cryptsetup or networkd, you might as well bring in full, as long as you don't pull in tpm2 by default
00:34:10
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org
In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
Ok here are the results, along with a necessary nixpkgs patch file: https://gist.github.com/ElvishJerricco/ca36d26fd30b78b211aea10604b9885e
* So, to me it kinda looks like once you bring in either cryptsetuluks or networkd, you might as well bring in full, as long as you don't pull in tpm2 by default
00:35:57

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