| 27 Feb 2025 |
 hexa | * https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/385672 | 23:48:28 |
| 28 Feb 2025 |
| hexa | https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/d459addab846d8144b61939b7f4310eb80c5470e#diff-756d5712016e5710874c0cbff395d8541dade83f84cfb8dd77644f5bb3c80710 | 01:38:13 |
| hexa | this surely looks super bad | 01:38:16 |
| hexa | expiry just a few days before firefox 138 | 01:38:55 |
| hexa | looks like thunderbird-bin and thunderbird-latest-unwrapped are not well maintained 😕 | 02:49:37 |
| hexa | 133.0 is old enough to lack mach fixes for python 3.12.8/9 | 02:52:15 |
 emily | it looks like this is just because the strings aren't used in the if switch('firefox-tou') else branch? | 03:29:56 |
| emily | * it looks like this is just because the strings aren't used in the if switch('firefox-tou') branch? | 03:30:01 |
| emily | hmm, but they do seem to be rather comprehensively removing statements that they don't sell data :) | 03:30:32 |
| emily | https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/issues/16016 too bad the gdocs are login-walled | 03:30:55 |
| hexa | yeah, I tried that gdocs yesterday 😄 | 03:31:08 |
| hexa | what the community now needs is a proper rationale | 03:31:33 |
| emily | my guess is still just "the lawyers won the argument about tightening up the wording and covering their ass", but it'll be interesting to see | 03:43:24 |
| emily | seems like Mozilla are flailing around even more lately | 03:44:00 |
| hexa | so two things worry me currently | 03:44:11 |
| hexa |
- they bought an advertisement company (https://www.anonymco.com/)
| 03:44:34 |
| hexa |
- funding is likely an issue, given the google monopoly lawsuit
| 03:45:04 |
| hexa | and mozilla has been in the browser market for 20 years | 03:47:42 |
| hexa | so its funny that so much is happening at once 😄 | 03:47:55 |
| hexa | also … leadership changes again | 03:48:07 |
| emily | I kinda figured they don't see Firefox as that much of a potential revenue source given its ~0 market share. hence all the flailing sround | 03:48:09 |
| emily | but I guess it's enough of one for Google historically | 03:48:18 |
| emily | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
also … leadership changes again for the worse, it seemed to me from skimming that announcement | 03:48:45 |
| emily | since it doubled down on the "who even cares about Firefox anyway" messaging | 03:49:01 |
| hexa | yup | 03:49:19 |
| hexa | 
Download image.png | 05:20:01 |
| hexa | 
Download image.png | 05:20:27 |
| hexa | yeah, ok … the picture is getting clearer | 05:20:36 |
 vcunat | Newer thunderbird-latest(-unwrapped) didn't seem to work well, so it remains rotting. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/382444#issuecomment-2661364204 | 06:42:02 |
| vcunat | Fortunately we have ESR, though -latest is planned to become officially recommended soon. | 06:42:39 |
