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11 Oct 2023
@guibou:matrix.orgGuillaum joined the room.07:09:48
@guibou:matrix.orgGuillaumHello. I'm nixGL (https://github.com/guibou/nixGL) author and my friend teto suggested that nixGL can be moved to nix community. I have no time / motivation / available hardware / use case anymore for nixGL, but apparently that's used, so I'll be more than happy to give it to the community. What could be the next step?07:12:24
@keiichi:matrix.orgtetoI see much people talking about it, home-manager integration etc and I know you dont have time to work on it so I think nix-community is a good solution 07:16:08
@thesola10:matrix.orgTheSola10i'd like an opinion on my proposal https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/9141 07:39:47
@thesola10:matrix.orgTheSola10 this would basically remove the burden from flake_registry.json 07:41:12
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusPardon me for the words07:41:50
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusBut that's a non starter IMHO07:41:57
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI don't see why FlakeHub should be preferred given it's not community infrastructure neither project owned infrastructure07:42:19
@thesola10:matrix.orgTheSola10knew it, i wasn't sure about the standing, but regardless of whether it's flakehub or another platform, the FlakeHub approach to flake indexing and versioning feels like a good match for flake shortnames07:43:09
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius Also I'd highly suggest discussing this in channels like #dev:nixos.org 07:43:24
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @thesola10:matrix.org
knew it, i wasn't sure about the standing, but regardless of whether it's flakehub or another platform, the FlakeHub approach to flake indexing and versioning feels like a good match for flake shortnames
Possibly
07:45:07
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI don't think your proposal should be made dependent on Flakehub then07:45:27
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusBut on any implementation of the idea07:45:34
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusThough I am not so convinced about DockerHub style feature in a community project 07:45:51
@thesola10:matrix.orgTheSola10

In addition, this could also mean a nix config option to allow sysadmins to override the "default namespace", like a rewrite rule:

but yea

07:45:55
@thesola10:matrix.orgTheSola10well we are heavily reliant on github anyway 07:47:12
@thesola10:matrix.orgTheSola10having a "home platform" could encourage decentralization, like pushing from self-hosted GitLabs and Giteas07:47:48
@thesola10:matrix.orgTheSola10as well as providing a "chain of trust" between a flake source and, say, a matching Cachix07:48:36
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusIt seems fragile to further build on the flake abstraction in this manner07:49:31
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusBut if Flakes proponents want it this way and Nix core team find a way to make place for that, it's not my business07:50:03
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI don't think decentralization is a goal that this proposal is particularly solving in any way07:50:32
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusBut that may be because most of the stuff I do already consumes from 30 different forges with Nix just fine without Flakes07:51:24
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusSo I must not be the target for this stuff07:51:30
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusProviding chain of trust between flake source and a cache is probably a misfeature as it is right now because it reintroduces imperative management and breaks the local scoping expectations07:52:24
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusIn my opinion at least07:52:32
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusIt's convenient but at what cost of the years of cultural shift we have been pursuing07:52:48
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusAgain don't let this opinion discourage you from pursuing what you feel is a good thing07:53:48
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI am not really the good audience for Flakes related stuff based on my own experience as a Nixpkgs developers 07:54:49
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius* I am not really the good audience for Flakes related stuff based on my own experience as a Nixpkgs developer07:54:58
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