| 14 Mar 2026 |
 hexa (signing key rotation when) | say another chonky x86_64-linux, aarch64-linux and two mac minis | 22:12:10 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | * say another chonky x86_64-linux and aarch64-linux server and two mac minis | 22:12:21 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | risc-v is at the cusp of becoming interesting, but most cpus are potatoes from what i know | 22:12:43 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | the question would be when to start buying into it | 22:12:52 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | * the question would be when to start buying into it and if that point is already here | 22:13:03 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | we will not target anything below rv23a (the instruction set including vector and virtualization extensions) | 22:13:40 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | you can open a ticket with fastly here https://support.fastly.com/s/contactsupport | 22:14:46 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | you should include the traceroute ideally and ask whether they know why your download performance over this path is slow | 22:15:12 |
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| 15 Mar 2026 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | and for the mac minis the lower bound for disk space should be 512 GB. we'll run out of disk space too often on smaller disks. | 00:01:19 |
 dramforever | why | 01:09:23 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | because no other distro does | 01:09:42 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | mostly because the instruction set before was a grab bag | 01:10:03 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | and nothing you could properly target as a baseline | 01:10:13 |
| dramforever | ... what? only ubuntu doesn't | 01:10:13 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | fair, but as a distro we are much more rebuild heavy than all other distros | 01:11:50 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | maybe except gentoo | 01:11:54 |
| dramforever | rva23 does not mean better performance | 01:12:04 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | and what I've seen is that they barely beat an a55/a73 setup | 01:12:08 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | the scaleway offer is for c910 cpus from what I can tell | 01:12:30 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | will they even keep up with unstable-small rebuilds between staging merges? | 01:13:38 |
| dramforever | it does not mean we should turn on -march=rva23u64 while building | 01:14:01 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | fair, whatever | 01:14:15 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | I'm not insisting on that | 01:14:20 |
| dramforever | we can only do it with faster cpus | 01:14:34 |
| dramforever | if that's what you mean | 01:14:39 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | yes | 01:14:43 |
| dramforever | i'm fine with that | 01:14:51 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | I think we started bootstrapping aarch64-linux around some x-gene cpu from packet.net | 01:15:41 |
| hexa (signing key rotation when) | not sure we had armv8 earlier than that | 01:15:53 |
