| 23 Feb 2025 |
 ElvishJerricco | * (This is rather annoying; changes we want to make to the graphical installer have to go through an entire release; really wish it were in-tree) | 16:49:08 |
 K900 | Maybe we should just yoink it into-tree | 16:49:57 |
| ElvishJerricco | That'd be nice | 16:50:06 |
 emily | my only nitpick was that I don't like "Linux <exactversion>" and "Linux LTS" | 16:52:20 |
| emily | I'd prefer "Linux latest" and "Linux LTS" | 16:52:20 |
| emily | the kernel won't be pinned to <exactversion> on install, and users generally won't know if the <exactversion> is older or newer than LTS | 16:52:38 |
 hexa | It won't be pinned, but showing the exact version number early makes sense | 16:55:08 |
| hexa | when you know the version bounds for certain features or hw support | 16:55:33 |
| ElvishJerricco | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
I'd prefer "Linux latest" and "Linux LTS" I just really dislike "latest" when when there's no guarantee it's literally the latest kernel | 16:57:18 |
| ElvishJerricco | I'd rather put the exact version on each boot entry, but that caused the LTS entry to extend outside the grub menu's UI boundary | 16:58:15 |
| ElvishJerricco | I have an idea to fix that but it's more of a pain in the ass. Each entry includes the NixOS version and revision. That could be in a label common to all entries. That would free up space. | 16:59:46 |
| emily | it's linuxPackages_latest | 17:00:31 |
| emily | if "latest" is a problem we should rename that | 17:00:31 |
| emily | in that case we should say "Linux <exact version> LTS" too, probably | 17:00:32 |
| ElvishJerricco | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
it's linuxPackages_latest But in the boot menu it's not | 17:00:54 |
| K900 | I do think that seeing the kernel version is good | 17:01:26 |
| hexa | it's okay to just do the right thing without mentioning it in the boot loader | 17:01:33 |
| ElvishJerricco | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
in that case we should say "Linux <exact version> LTS" too, probably Like I said, there's other factors that make this annoying but preferable | 17:01:37 |
| K900 | Because like, let's say I burn an ISO and then leave it in the drawer for two months | 17:01:39 |
| K900 | What's the "latest" kernel? | 17:01:42 |
| hexa | like if you booted up and installed from latest we're not going to surprise you | 17:01:54 |
| K900 | Clearly not what's on the image | 17:01:57 |
| K900 | Can we just stick the NixOS version and stuff into the header? | 17:02:22 |
| K900 | There is customizable text in the header | 17:02:27 |
| K900 | Technically | 17:02:30 |
| ElvishJerricco | I think this is all stuff that's been discussed before, and I feel I have to (lightly) put my foot down and say: The PR is in the state that I, the maintainer, think has considered the options and concluded the reasonable responses. I like not to bikeshed it anymore | 17:05:03 |
| ElvishJerricco | if you all feel differently, I'm very open to that | 17:05:19 |
| emily | I'm fine merging it as is. I do think we shouldn't ship with "Linux <randomnumbers>" and "Linux LTS" because it doesn't help users meaningfully compare them | 17:05:39 |
| emily | but I don't think it's a blocker | 17:05:43 |
| emily | (ship = 25.05) | 17:05:47 |
