| 25 Dec 2025 |
 Marcus | Don't disagree with that. It's using some of our worst ideas from Catalyst development as well 🙂 | 10:22:21 |
| 26 Dec 2025 |
|  isabel changed their profile picture. | 11:38:05 |
|  zitrone (39c3 DECT ZITR/9487) changed their display name from zitrone to zitrone (39c3 DECT ZITR/9487). | 12:19:22 |
 VladimÃr ÄŒunát | Uh, still lots of failures on staging-next, around 18k instead of 5k from unstable. | 13:30:38 |
| VladimÃr ÄŒunát | Part of that is the exchange of python 3.14 instead of 3.12, and lots of 3.14 packages being broken. But even without that there are thousands of linux regressions:
https://hydra.nixos.org/eval/1821437?filter=-linux&compare=unstable#tabs-now-fail :-/ | 13:35:15 |
 emily | probably not a great time of year for people being free to triage major changes | 13:37:52 |
| emily | maybe would have been better to do a last 25.05 or something? | 13:38:10 |
| emily | (I've lost track of the schedule at this point though) | 13:38:15 |
 leona | i'll try fixing a few, at least python should be possible for me.. I dont have a macos with me tho | 13:38:31 |
| emily | I am very much taking a break, but if there is any particularly major Darwin thing in this cycle I can potentially offer "giving my best guess diagnosis/proposed solution" levels of help | 13:40:14 |
| emily | sometimes I wish we had a cleaner separation of "low-risk security/bug fix" staging merges and "major breaking/risky" staging merges so we could choose to run low-impact cycles and time the big stuff | 13:41:22 |
| emily | (though I'm loathe to see even more branches) | 13:41:48 |
 K900 | I can look later | 13:42:35 |
| K900 | Currently migraine | 13:42:40 |
| emily | (feel like we are at a scale where it makes sense to start thinking about explicit rollup decisions a la Rust, but it's tough, allocating build/triage resources for jobsets, and not like I have the time to put in the work…) | 13:49:34 |
| VladimÃr ÄŒunát | I'm getting ready to start 25.11 in the meantime. There's almost nothing queued for 25.05. | 14:05:44 |
 Grimmauld (any/all) | there is lots of python and gcc 15 fails, kinda painful | 14:21:00 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | pydantic is biggest break on aarch64, probably just needs a bump to 2.12 versions | 14:22:19 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | (2.12.5 probably) | 14:22:55 |
| emily | oh, this was both Python 3.14 and GCC 15? | 14:25:16 |
| K900 | Yep | 14:25:20 |
| emily | end of December really doesn't seem like a great time for that… 😅 | 14:25:27 |
| K900 | Honestly | 14:27:01 |
| K900 | GCC15 was surprisingly not horrible | 14:27:05 |
| emily | we did a lot of prep | 14:27:23 |
| leona | i just fixed pdantic | 14:27:51 |
| leona | * i just fixed pydantic | 14:27:53 |
| leona | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/474347 | 14:27:55 |
| K900 | Even including that | 14:28:24 |
| leona | 2.12.5 doesn't include that commit | 14:28:25 |
