| 30 Dec 2025 |
 vcunat | I'm not sure about staging-next. While I'm not aware of any particular blockers, the amount of regressions does remain pretty high.
One way to look is https://hydra.nixos.org/eval/1821537?compare=unstable
i.e. 4.3k jobs newly failing - 1.1k newly succeeding. If we wanted to take into account the rotation of non-default python version (which appear as new and removed packages in there), we could look at total successes and failures.
Successes decrease by 15k (!) and failures increase by 7k.
| 07:43:57 |
| vcunat | (PRs currently open against staging-next seem to fix at most a couple hundred jobs) | 07:46:45 |
| vcunat | * I'm not sure about staging-next. While I'm not aware of any particular blockers, the amount of regressions does remain pretty high.
One way to look is https://hydra.nixos.org/eval/1821537?compare=unstable
i.e. 4.3k jobs newly failing - 1.1k newly succeeding. If we wanted to take into account the rotation of non-default python version (which appear as new and removed packages in there), we could look at total successes and failures.
Successes decrease by 17k (!) and failures increase by 7k.
| 07:55:51 |
 K900 | I see a lot of potentially flaky stuff in the reports | 07:59:53 |
| K900 | twisted uvloop etc | 07:59:56 |
| vcunat | They've been retried a few times already. | 08:00:37 |
 Grimmauld (any/all) | didn't hexa disable tests on uvloop darwin? | 08:00:54 |
| vcunat | If they're that much flaky, I consider them as good as always failing. | 08:00:56 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | but anyways, i vote to fix channel blockers only and other than that figure it out on master | 08:01:20 |
 hexa | On 3.14 | 08:01:42 |
| vcunat | on x86_64-darwin only, right? | 08:02:24 |
| hexa | Both | 08:02:32 |
| vcunat | Oh. | 08:02:37 |
| vcunat | This one is 3.13 on aarch64-darwin:
https://hydra.nixos.org/build/317516384 | 08:02:46 |
| hexa | Twisted, not uvloop, aorry | 08:03:20 |
| hexa | Couldn't repro twisted locally | 08:03:30 |
| hexa | * uvloop, not twisted, aorry | 09:19:40 |
| hexa | imo twisted tests run into timeouts because of ongoing high cpu load on the darwin boxes | 09:33:23 |
| hexa | built py313/314 twisted on aarch64-darrwin and x86_64-darwin | 09:33:46 |
| hexa | * built py313/314 twisted on aarch64-darrwin and x86_64-darwin here | 09:36:05 |
 sterni | Merged staging-next → staging | 15:13:47 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | look, there is various security-critical updates in the staging cycle. Python updates is like two months old already. I do not think it is in any way responsible to hold back all of that because some builds are apparently flaky on overloaded darwin build boxes. | 15:26:23 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | i think we should merge, and let the maintainers of individual packages figure it out. | 15:26:48 |
| K900 | I am also leaning towards send it at this point | 15:34:13 |
| vcunat | staging-next merged 🤞 | 17:48:06 |
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