| 14 Jan 2022 |
 piegames | Google says that the last release (2.32) was over a decade ago (2010) | 17:55:10 |
 SigmaSquadron | GNOME 2 has been EOL since GNOME 3.2 launched, which was over 10 years ago. | 18:13:01 |
 jonringer | Ah yes, the great "no valid release" period, which spawned unity | 18:23:57 |
 hexa | 
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 Jan Tojnar | GNOME should not really depend on gnome2 | 21:13:12 |
| Jan Tojnar | some random third party apps do | 21:13:25 |
| Jan Tojnar | and then there is stuff like chromium and java which depend on GConf and ORBit (we should probably remove those dependencies since those will probably not work without daemons anyway) but I am not sure if removing those dependencies does not require some patches | 21:16:17 |
| Jan Tojnar | hexa: also as mentioned on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/148779, pygtk is blocked by GIMP at least | 21:18:15 |
| Jan Tojnar | * hexa: also, as mentioned on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/148779, pygtk is blocked by GIMP at least | 21:18:23 |
| hexa | yes, we can make an exception for gimp if need be | 21:18:55 |
| hexa | but I wonder if 2.99.8 could work instead | 21:19:03 |
| hexa | pkgs/desktops/gnome-2/bindings/gnome-python-desktop/default.nix
pkgs/desktops/gnome-2/bindings/gnome-python/default.nix
pkgs/desktops/gnome-2/desktop/vte/default.nix
| 21:19:30 |
| hexa | * pkgs/desktops/gnome-2/bindings/gnome-python-desktop/default.nix
pkgs/desktops/gnome-2/bindings/gnome-python/default.nix
pkgs/desktops/gnome-2/desktop/vte/default.nix
pkgs/desktops/gnome-2/bindings/gnome-python/default.nix
| 21:20:03 |
| hexa | these are the offending files in the gnome namespace | 21:20:22 |
| Jan Tojnar | that is still an unstable version | 21:20:35 |
| hexa | so I think we need to make an exception for gimp and possibly neard? | 21:20:56 |
| Jan Tojnar | again, nothing in gnome should depend on gnome2 | 21:21:56 |
| Jan Tojnar | by the way, in the past I tried removing various libraries from gnome2 prefix and everything that depended on them | 21:25:42 |
| Jan Tojnar | but I mostly only managed to get rid of packages with few dependents, the remaining were too much work | 21:26:35 |
| Jan Tojnar | by the way, more cleanup https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/154834 | 21:28:55 |
| Jan Tojnar | * on a slightly different note, more cleanups https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/154834 | 21:29:32 |
| 15 Jan 2022 |
| piegames | I was naive and tried to remove libglade on a whim. This is probably only a third of the total fallout it will have. libglade is depended on by libgnomecanvas and libgnomeui, and the gtk-sharp mostly has to go as well, including all Gtk applications written in C# | 01:47:45 |
| piegames | * I was naive and tried to remove libglade on a whim. This is probably only a third of the total fallout it will have. libglade is depended on by libgnomecanvas and libgnomeui, and the gtk-sharp mostly has to go as well, including all Gtk applications written in C#. | 01:47:47 |
| piegames | * I was naive and tried to remove libglade on a whim. This is probably only a third of the total fallout it will have. libglade is depended on by libgnomecanvas and libgnomeui. | 01:49:39 |
| piegames | Please confirm that this is indeed the right thing to do and that I am not wasting my time on something that nobody actually wants. | 01:50:39 |
| Jan Tojnar | piegames: the reason I gave up on removing libglade last time because we actually want some of the packages that depend on it | 02:16:09 |
| Jan Tojnar | like calf | 02:16:18 |
| piegames | And xournal (debatable) | 02:16:49 |
| Jan Tojnar | and we would first need to determine which are needed and which are good to remove | 02:17:00 |
| Jan Tojnar | which is enough work already | 02:17:18 |
