| 4 Nov 2021 |
 joepie91 🏳️🌈 | Jonas Chevalier: we've been doing nothing but talking about it. but as long as you cannot engage with the explanations in a way that's not "dismissing them", there's no way to progress this | 14:13:52 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | that's my concern with your response | 14:14:03 |
 Jonas Chevalier | at that point we can identify that as a systemic problem? | 14:14:11 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | you seem pretty much convinced that anything abstract isn't worth being concerned about | 14:14:15 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | In reply to @zimbatm:numtide.com
at that point we can identify that as a systemic problem? yes, and we have already reached this stage for some other things | 14:14:47 |
| Jonas Chevalier | I'm saying that we cannot build a shared understanding of it | 14:14:54 |
| Jonas Chevalier | unless we work it from specific examples | 14:15:06 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | as I've said, I've already given a specific example above | 14:15:17 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | two, in fact | 14:15:18 |
