| 27 Oct 2024 |
 emily | well, we allow updates for new functionality in the middle of a stable release. | 21:20:37 |
| emily | so I think those are fine. | 21:20:40 |
 Tristan Ross | Oh | 21:21:52 |
| Tristan Ross | Probably updates as long as they don't cause major regressions lol | 21:22:13 |
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| 28 Oct 2024 |
 tomberek | btw: @rosscomputerguy:matrix.org: Good job being active and involved with all the release details. Thanks! | 02:10:30 |
| Tristan Ross | Heh thanks, I've been trying to juggle all the stuff I do but at least I'm not bored lol | 02:11:18 |
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 ma27 | shit, it went completely past me that postgresql_13 is EOL by tomorrow.
Will file a PR by today or tomorrow. Do you want me to remove it or marked as insecure? | 08:18:29 |
 @rick:matrix.ciphernetics.nl | Seems like the policy for that is documented in nixos/modules/services/databases/postgresql.md | 11:23:13 |
| @rick:matrix.ciphernetics.nl | Annoying if you still have a stateVersion of 21.11 or lower so I guess it makes sense to mark insecure to give people a better chance of upgrading in a more graceful way | 11:25:35 |
 Sandro | Please mark it insecure otherwise people can't uograde | 11:59:22 |
| Sandro | * | 11:59:28 |
| Sandro | We can drop it in unstable soonish i think | 12:00:25 |
| Sandro | Also do we have instructions on how to upgrade?
Otherwise I would have https://github.com/NuschtOS/nixos-modules/blob/main/modules/postgres.nix#L41
| 12:01:29 |
| @rick:matrix.ciphernetics.nl | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/modules/services/databases/postgresql.md#upgrading-module-services-postgres-upgrading | 12:25:33 |
| @rick:matrix.ciphernetics.nl | There are instructions for upgrading, though I've never used them so YMMV | 12:26:03 |
 Arian | Note the notes about what versions we ship | 12:49:56 |
| Arian | Seems we don't preemptively mark EOL as insecure | 12:50:34 |
| Arian | Only if a critical issue comes out after the EOL | 12:50:43 |
| Sandro | The module I posted above basically does that but without you having to write the code for it | 12:53:11 |
| Sandro | But looks about right | 12:53:15 |
| ma27 | In reply to @sandro:supersandro.de
Please mark it insecure otherwise people can't uograde upgrade from where?
you can also go to 14 and upgrade then? | 13:27:34 |
| Sandro | you need the old version to upgrade and if someone is still on 13 because well, they never upgraded then they cannot without also adding an old channel back | 13:28:17 |
| Sandro | removing the package would just make upgrading for people that have slept it over until now even harder | 13:28:45 |
| ma27 | hmm yeah fair.
Guess I'll add a warning for the oldest two(?) postgresql version in the conditional. | 13:29:43 |
| 29 Oct 2024 |
| Arian | i'm running into a lot of Bluetooth issues since bluez 5.78 landed on unstable. Just a heads up | 12:27:28 |
| Arian | things disconnect after a while; and lose their pairing | 12:27:35 |
| Arian | It's fixed by rolling bluez back to 5.76 | 12:27:46 |
| Arian | Or at least; I'm not running into the issue when I boot that nixos generation | 12:28:13 |
