| 11 May 2025 |
 WeetHet | I'm confused | 16:53:02 |
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| 13 May 2025 |
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 Alyssa Ross | Would be nice if we could have a staging-25.05 branch already, or at least a label, so we don't have to keep track of which PRs need backporting out of band until branch-off. | 13:53:48 |
 emily | yeah I think we discussed last release that we should probably branch staging off before master | 13:54:13 |
| emily | or just do the whole branch-off at the same moment staging opens up for breaking changes | 13:54:27 |
 leona | I will now just create it. I didn't find it in the last release discussion and nobody mentioned it (before Grimmauld (any/all) a few days ago | 13:56:00 |
 Vladimír Čunát | From the current staging-next, I assume. | 13:56:47 |
| emily | IIRC I don't think it's part of the standard procedures to do it at this point. (it would just be an improvement on the standard procedures) | 13:58:43 |
| Alyssa Ross | A 25.11 release notes document would also be nice so we could start collecting descriptions of breaking changes on staging. | 15:00:25 |
| emily | I personally think it would be nice if there was never a point where we can't land breaking changes somewhere (but I guess the idea of having a freeze prior to branch-off is to focus efforts on ZHF?) | 15:05:14 |
| emily | i.e. we would just branch off everything at the exact point of the freeze | 15:05:32 |
 SigmaSquadron | I would also really like that. | 15:05:48 |
| Alyssa Ross | that would make sense | 15:05:50 |
| leona | staging-25.05 and staging-next-25.05 exists now, periodic merge is set up for that too. (for now master -> staging-next-25.05) | 15:51:40 |
| Alyssa Ross | Great! | 15:53:15 |
| leona | release-notes too. | 15:55:00 |
| Alyssa Ross | Backports are working, just tested :) | 15:55:27 |
 hexa | please document the steps required for setting up the branches early in the release wiki | 16:26:05 |
| hexa | I know it was discussed many times, but thanks for making it happen the first time 🙂 | 16:26:23 |
| emily | should we branch off master too? | 17:02:08 |
| emily | it seems weird that we can make breaking changes that are mass rebuilds but not ones that aren't mass rebuilds | 17:02:18 |
| Alyssa Ross | We can also just put those into staging for now | 17:04:01 |
| leona | i'd not to this now. we can discuss this for next time, it feels off to do now. especially as this will be complicated/strange with the current staging-next | 17:31:30 |
| 14 May 2025 |
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| 15 May 2025 |
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| leona changed the room topic to "25.05 "Warbler" | https://nixos.github.io/release-wiki/Home.html" from "24.11 "Vicuña" | https://nixos.github.io/release-wiki/Home.html". | 07:18:41 |
| leona | I'll do branch-off tomorrow (2025-05-16) at 17:00 UTC and will be in https://jitsi.lassul.us/nixos-release. Feel free to join to prevent me from doing mistakes :) | 16:47:32 |
