| 25 Oct 2024 |
 linj | It is a bit weird that, unlike 24.05, there is no restriction for breaking changes to go to master now. | 06:58:28 |
| linj | Tristan Ross: ^ | 06:59:50 |
 Tristan Ross | In reply to @me:linj.tech
It is a bit weird that, unlike 24.05, there is no restriction for breaking changes to go to master now. I just copied from the release wiki lol https://nixos.github.io/release-wiki/Release-Process.html | 07:01:28 |
| Tristan Ross | So probably the release wiki should be updated if we do want to have breaking changes freeze on master | 07:02:08 |
 emily | I was told that the branch names there were irrelevant and the intent is indeed that the total freeze is now | 09:58:40 |
| emily | we're starting ZHF in a few days, so | 09:58:51 |
| emily | I do think the wiki should be fixed though (needs timezones on the deadlines too) | 09:59:09 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
I do think the wiki should be fixed though (needs timezones on the deadlines too) Ideally, we would use the AoE time. | 14:42:06 |
| emily | you mean I could have gotten more sleep for the last-minute Darwin merges? 😄 | 14:42:42 |
| Tristan Ross | Maybe | 14:43:14 |
| emily | I was assuming UTC in the absence of any concrete information before, but AoE would probably be more convenient for contributors in America etc. | 14:43:50 |
| Tristan Ross | I updated the 24.11 release schedule to reflect the 24.05 one better with branches and I added a comment about it being AoE time. | 14:46:37 |
| Tristan Ross | Gonna update the release wiki soon. | 14:47:00 |
| emily | cheers :) | 14:47:04 |
| emily | time to break 50 things | 14:47:08 |
| Tristan Ross | https://github.com/NixOS/release-wiki/pull/95 | 14:52:12 |
| emily | it could use some clarification: e.g. are breaking changes restricted when it's the 25th anywhere on earth, or when it's no longer the 24th anywhere on earth? | 22:06:58 |
| emily | I think the latter makes the most sense, since it means that if your clock says the 24th it's definitely okay, but currently it implies more the former | 22:07:25 |
| emily | for bonus confusion, the offset is actually different between those two possibilities… | 22:07:36 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
it could use some clarification: e.g. are breaking changes restricted when it's the 25th anywhere on earth, or when it's no longer the 24th anywhere on earth? I was thinking that as soon as the 25th hits then the changes are restricted | 23:13:01 |
| emily | that means that for a contributor in New Zealand the freeze happens as soon as their clock says the 24th | 23:14:04 |
| emily | or, no | 23:14:24 |
| emily | gah, timezone arithmetic is such a pain :) | 23:14:29 |
| emily | rather, it means it's really early for people in negative UTC offsets | 23:14:37 |
| Tristan Ross | I think either way, we'd run into problems | 23:14:40 |
| emily | well, "freeze is when it's no longer the 24th AoE" means that as long as your clock says the 24th it's okay to do a breaking change – whereas "freeze is when it's the 25th anywhere" means that for many people the deadline will be quite early on the 24th | 23:15:51 |
| emily | I think "you have to do timezone arithmetic to check only if the clock says the cutoff date" is more international-friendly | 23:16:15 |
| emily | though it's mostly just the same thing but offset by one day ultimately | 23:16:28 |
| 26 Oct 2024 |
 hexa | I always thought of times as in UTC | 02:22:31 |
| hexa | * I always thought of times in UTC | 02:22:35 |
