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9 Apr 2024
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer"backup" for me is if someone else doesn't step up, I'll step up.21:37:03
@tomberek:matrix.orgtomberek figsoda: Glad to see the extra announcements helped. Anything else you need? (i also RM'd a while back and can assist as needed) 22:21:04
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerAlso there to assist :)22:32:24
10 Apr 2024
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa figsoda: can you try to nail this to down asap? 11:22:37
11 Apr 2024
@figsoda:matrix.orgfigsoda

I don't think I have the capacity to consistently commit time to release management, and I'm stepping back from the Release Manager role.
I'm nominating Weijia (primary) and jonringer (secondary) for 24.05 based on the discourse thread.

It's been wonderful working with everyone for 23.11, I will still be around for 24.05, feel free to ask me for help, I just probably won't be as active.

Sorry that I sent this message weeks after when it should have happend - I should have stepped back earlier so we wouldn't be behind the release schedule.

P.S. I haven't been as active in nixpkgs and my nix-community either. I'm not leaving the community, I just haven't been as active partly because of life and partly because of burnout. And for anyone concerned - I'm fine, just a little busier than I used to be.

01:48:21
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer For what it's worth, I think you did a great job figsoda . Take some time, you deserve it :) 01:50:13
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer Weijia: not sure when you want to meet, but I think it would be good to come up with the release schedule and plan the next steps up until ZHF. 01:52:00
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer figsoda: don't forget about release editor as well :) 01:52:13
@figsoda:matrix.orgfigsoda
In reply to @jonringer:matrix.org
figsoda: don't forget about release editor as well :)
Would you mind picking the release editors for me? I asked alejandrosame and they would be busy during 24.05, so we would need 2 new release editors. Thanks!
01:53:57
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer ajaxbits, jacg, and krbylit all aplied. Unfortunately not super familiar with any of these candidates 01:55:12
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer * ajaxbits, jacg, and krbylit all aplied. Unfortunately not super familiar with any of these candidates. https://discourse.nixos.org/t/24-05-call-for-release-manager-editor/42195/11 01:55:30
@figsoda:matrix.orgfigsoda
In reply to @jonringer:matrix.org
ajaxbits, jacg, and krbylit all aplied. Unfortunately not super familiar with any of these candidates. https://discourse.nixos.org/t/24-05-call-for-release-manager-editor/42195/11
westexjeff (https://matrix.to/#/!aGqRytqbCECitOFhbt:nixos.org/$GnT-XdIIqbrSOzzEByKLVWy89cH6kEgwVPG-bAucm6U?via=nixos.org&via=matrix.org&via=helsinki-systems.de) and PowerUser64 (https://matrix.to/#/!aGqRytqbCECitOFhbt:nixos.org/$PzR-5xypmsQFPbnMGrUlUZBiyJ7YRelAJb_ftosHk9U?via=nixos.org&via=matrix.org&via=helsinki-systems.de) seems to also be interested
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@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerAw yes, thank you02:00:30
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer * westexjeff, PowerUser64 ,ajaxbits, jacg, and krbylit all aplied. Unfortunately not super familiar with any of these candidates. https://discourse.nixos.org/t/24-05-call-for-release-manager-editor/42195/11 02:02:05
@wegank:matrix.orgWeijia
In reply to @jonringer:matrix.org
Weijia: not sure when you want to meet, but I think it would be good to come up with the release schedule and plan the next steps up until ZHF.
Probably this Saturday or Sunday evening in UTC+2? I'm counting 7 hours of time difference between us.
02:27:14
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@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64 Weijia: I'm on PDT, which is UTC-7 right now. If you schedule a meeting, feel free to ping me and tell me when it is. I'll be fairly busy the next few days, but I'll be more available closer to and after the end of this month. What's our timeline for 24.5? 04:04:06
@wegank:matrix.orgWeijiahttps://nixos.github.io/release-wiki/Release-Process.html04:10:50
@wegank:matrix.orgWeijiaWe're almost -7 weeks from release, so probably should start the first event asap04:12:02
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerI was expecting to go through 4.1 and 4.2 together https://nixos.github.io/release-wiki/Once-Appointed.html04:14:25
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringera lot of the "work" is pretty "copy, update, paste". If you feel confident to do it on your own, feel free to do so. Otherwise we go through it together04:16:06
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer * a lot of the "work" is pretty "copy, update, paste". If you feel confident to do it on your own, feel free to do so. Otherwise we can go through it together 04:16:26
@wegank:matrix.orgWeijiaFeature freeze announcement: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/30328606:17:47
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeI assume cctools/ld64 would fall under binutils. Where does bumping the effective minimum version on Darwin fall on the breaking scale? The cctools/ld64 update may require a bump to 10.14 as the effective minimum version for building things.16:09:22
@wegank:matrix.orgWeijia
In reply to @reckenrode:matrix.org
I assume cctools/ld64 would fall under binutils. Where does bumping the effective minimum version on Darwin fall on the breaking scale? The cctools/ld64 update may require a bump to 10.14 as the effective minimum version for building things.
I think I'd ask for an x86_64-darwin jobset (and a public announcement) before approving a PR on this, even if it only contains a treewide substitution of "10.12" by "10.14"
16:47:08
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer10.14 is kind of "big" for macOS, C++14 (IIRC), and a few other tooling improvements landed in that release16:48:48
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerHowever, it was released in Sept 2018, so I think ~5 years is a pretty low bar16:49:20
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode
In reply to @wegank:matrix.org
I think I'd ask for an x86_64-darwin jobset (and a public announcement) before approving a PR on this, even if it only contains a treewide substitution of "10.12" by "10.14"
It’s not an SDK change. That will come post 24.05. The updated cctools and ld64 have a hard requirement on using libdispatch APIs that are only available in 10.14. They can be built with the 11.0 SDK and a 10.14 deployment target in the meantime until the default SDK is changed.
16:49:37
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode
In reply to @jonringer:matrix.org
10.14 is kind of "big" for macOS, C++14 (IIRC), and a few other tooling improvements landed in that release
We use our own libc++, so even 10.12 has whatever the latest is. This ld64 update would bring Darwin up to the version of ld-classic shipped in Xcode 15.3. The cctools update handles signatures better. If it’s a linker-signed ad hoc signature, strip&c will update the signature automatically without a hook or wrapper.
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