| 23 May 2023 |
 raitobezarius | Yeah, IMHO, I'd rather avoid removing any package in the beta phase | 14:52:01 |
 Vladimír Čunát | * Maybe for the following releases we should explicitly clarify whether removing a package (which built so far) is a "breaking change". | 14:52:10 |
| raitobezarius | People are starting to upgrade to 23.05-beta, feeling it's not hard to fix, to discover commits later that the final release is incompatible | 14:52:28 |
| raitobezarius | And I feel like this is a non-starter in terms of UX | 14:52:35 |
| raitobezarius | (LLVM uses to do this kind of stuff in the release candidates and I hate it) | 14:52:48 |
| raitobezarius | * (LLVM do this kind of stuff in the release candidates and I hate it) | 14:52:55 |
| Vladimír Čunát | In reply to @vcunat:matrix.org
Maybe for the following releases we should explicitly clarify whether removing a package (which built so far) is a "breaking change". I'd probably think that it is a breaking change. Or at least when the alternatives aren't fully compatible. | 14:54:10 |
 Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | Can I merge and backport this? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/232459 | 14:54:52 |
| Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | I wouldn't consider this a breaking change as it doesn't change any user-facing functionality | 14:55:23 |
| Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | It just makes the flake used in the script consistent across nix-copy-closure and nix copy | 14:55:48 |
| raitobezarius | Get reviewers for it :P Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | 15:01:38 |
| raitobezarius | You should merge it in master ASAP IMHO (after an approval) and stabilize it, then open the backport PR, then get approvals | 15:02:45 |
| raitobezarius | and we are good IMHO | 15:02:49 |
 lennart | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
lennart: how do you feel about the status of the release notes atm? I do not feel too good about it tbh. Will get back to you tonight. | 15:23:24 |
| raitobezarius | let's jump into a call if needed | 15:23:38 |
| lennart | Wanted to propose that | 15:23:47 |
| raitobezarius | I am in the headroom to think properly about those now we have frozen features | 15:23:48 |
| lennart | Cool | 15:23:55 |
| lennart | What do you think about tomorrow like 9-12 am CEST? | 15:24:18 |
| lennart | as a possible timeframe | 15:24:33 |
| raitobezarius | 9am CEST tomorrow, good for me? | 15:26:29 |
| raitobezarius | invitation open to hexa and Winter (she/her) if you want to join us of course | 15:26:48 |
| lennart | Yea works for me, thanks! | 15:30:42 |
| lennart | I'd do love hexas input if he's available | 15:30:59 |
 hexa | I'm booked until 2pm unfortunately | 15:43:01 |
| lennart | Ok, I'll take notes and such and post them here for further input | 15:43:23 |
 infinisil | raitobezarius: Regarding https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/230712#issuecomment-1557829666, might be worth pointing out that NixOS 22.11 should still receive backports for security updates | 15:54:26 |
| raitobezarius | done | 15:55:15 |
| hexa | we will announce the remaining month of security support when we release 23.05 I think | 15:55:17 |
| hexa | pretty sure that the people who work on security fixes are aware | 15:56:05 |
