| 17 May 2022 |
 Vladimír Čunát | Any opinions on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/170856 ? Simply revert to older xorg-server, for 22.05 at least? | 11:34:11 |
| 21 May 2022 |
 Janne Heß | I asked Graham to create the jobsets in advance and it doesn't appear to be an issue. The jobsets will not evaluate anyway because the branches are missing so this doesn't create additional load and gives us flexibility since we can just start evals from the hydra ui | 20:17:49 |
| Vladimír Čunát | In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
I asked Graham to create the jobsets in advance and it doesn't appear to be an issue. The jobsets will not evaluate anyway because the branches are missing so this doesn't create additional load and gives us flexibility since we can just start evals from the hydra ui I also have the permissions, BTW. Cloning jobsets and adjusting their parameters is quite easy. | 20:18:36 |
| Vladimír Čunát | In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
I asked Graham to create the jobsets in advance and it doesn't appear to be an issue. The jobsets will not evaluate anyway because the branches are missing so this doesn't create additional load and gives us flexibility since we can just start evals from the hydra ui * I also have the permissions, BTW (for future reference). Cloning jobsets and adjusting their parameters is quite easy. | 20:18:49 |
| Janne Heß | In reply to @vcunat:matrix.org
I also have the permissions, BTW (for future reference). Cloning jobsets and adjusting their parameters is quite easy. The docs just state "the infrastructure team" and the less people we have to wait for the better imo. The docs now state to ask the team 1-2 days before so we are flexible in case multiple people from the infra team are unavailable | 20:21:14 |
| Vladimír Čunát | You could say ask in https://matrix.to/#/#infra:nixos.org or something. | 20:23:18 |
| Janne Heß | Yeah, I linked that. If you are interested in the WIP chapter (not finished because I haven't actually branched yet): https://github.com/NixOS/release-wiki/pull/40 | 20:23:44 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Ah right. I have the "Infra Team" term associated with a much narrower set of people (and corresponding private room). | 20:26:22 |
| Janne Heß | In reply to @vcunat:matrix.org
Ah right. I have the "Infra Team" term associated with a much narrower set of people (and corresponding private room). Ah, I don't think I can expect every release manager to be part of that private room ;) | 20:27:14 |
| Vladimír Čunát | The room you link is much better for this. | 20:27:48 |
| Vladimír Čunát | I'm not on the infra team itself, but I can create jobsets (in nixpkgs and nixos projects). Though I'm not sure how many other such people exist. | 20:28:32 |
| Janne Heß | Probably not too many | 20:29:11 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Release managers commonly do get restart/cancel privileges at least, right? | 20:31:31 |
| Janne Heß | In reply to @vcunat:matrix.org
Release managers commonly do get restart/cancel privileges at least, right? Yeah, I have everything except admin and create-projects | 20:31:53 |
| Janne Heß | So also the bump privilege | 20:32:02 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Right, that's relevant. | 20:32:48 |
| Janne Heß | Vladimír Čunát: about your comment: is there any reason to lower the scheduling shares rather than just disabling the jobset altogether? | 20:47:31 |
| Vladimír Čunát | People still push to them sometimes. | 20:48:19 |
| Janne Heß | ummm what? | 20:48:26 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Say
commit + 1a7c2f41c3bf6d7fd443e2453e7b840cdc413375 (h/release-21.05, h/nixpkgs-21.05-darwin, h/nixos-21.05-aarch64)
Author: Robert Hensing <robert@roberthensing.nl>
AuthorDate: Thu Apr 7 11:05:28 2022 +0200
Commit: Robert Hensing <robert@roberthensing.nl>
CommitDate: Mon May 2 09:51:01 2022 +0200
pkgs: Add _type = "pkgs"
(cherry picked from commit ad1e2500efd0aa49b0dc7427bf69d4879f3b0ff5)
(cherry picked from commit aec730a0af4c977513ce28236cbecaca72af6901)
| 20:49:04 |
| Vladimír Čunát | That's to 21.05 just several weeks ago. | 20:49:21 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * That's to 21.05 just three weeks ago. | 20:49:39 |
| Vladimír Čunát | To me, removal of support is just removal of commitment/guarantees about maintenance. | 20:50:18 |
| Vladimír Čunát | But if someone still wants to do it, I can't see why block it. But naturally it should have lower priority on the shared infra. | 20:50:55 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * But if someone still wants to do it, I can't see why block it. Naturally it should have lower priority on the shared infra. | 20:51:05 |
| Janne Heß | I've had this discussion in another context, but I think changing EOL releases makes it seem a lot like it's still (at least partially) maintained | 20:51:49 |
| Vladimír Čunát | If they are, is it bad that they look like it? | 20:52:39 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Maybe if it's confusing, yes. | 20:53:11 |
| Janne Heß | Well if they were, we should have a consistent wording. status.nixos.org clearly states these as EOL | 20:53:15 |
| Janne Heß | yeah | 20:53:16 |
