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 Migrated to @infinidoge:inx.moe | They aren't used for anything within Nixpkgs itself, so the only way they would be used by someone would be if they explicitly reached into the old compilers to grab it, somehow had it building, and ignored the broken and insecure warnings | 04:56:41 |
| Migrated to @infinidoge:inx.moe | Revising to removing 12/13/14/15,
16 can stay because we have an alternative bootstrap binary, (Temurin/Semeru both are packaged for 16 in Nixpkgs) | 06:28:59 |
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| Migrated to @infinidoge:inx.moe | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/310466 | 01:08:31 |
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| 24 May 2024 |
 Philip Taron (UTC-8) | Glad to see your update PR getting some traction, Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ ! | 16:05:56 |
 bendlas | I've been working on porting the guix java bootstrap to nixos. Still needs some work, but promising so far. Anybody interested in helping to advance that? https://github.com/bendlas/nixpkgs/blob/main/pkgs/development/compilers/openjdk/bootstrap-libre/default.nix | 16:09:44 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | First thing I have to ask about the bootstrap:
Will you be maintaining it? | 17:03:49 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | There is already a lot of maintenance burden for OpenJDK in Nixpkgs, and merging a bootstrap that won't be maintained makes it dead on arrival and worsens the existing problem | 17:04:32 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | My second JDK PR rips out the existing broken bootstrap, as an example | 17:05:11 |
| bendlas | I mean .. by default I will, but I am hoping that there's more than just poor old me interested in that ... | 17:05:11 |
| bendlas | also: the nature of the bootstrap is that it should be very low-maintenance, since the historical versions don't change any more. the only thing I had to patch so far, was a buffer overrun in jamvm, that was detected due to more recent gcc | 17:06:23 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | As long as it is easy to keep adding new versions to the bootstrap chain, then it should be fine. I can say with some certainty that I don't have the in-depth JDK knowledge (or time) to maintain it from the root though. | 17:07:52 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | I'm not quite sure what a full bootstrap chain would really be used for, but it doesn't hurt at least. | 17:08:20 |
| bendlas | everything after jdk 7 won't change, java is already bootstrapping from each's previous version | 17:08:36 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | The existing bootstrap chain needs to either be fixed or replaced | 17:09:12 |
| bendlas | In reply to @infinidoge:inx.moe
I'm not quite sure what a full bootstrap chain would really be used for, but it doesn't hurt at least. it's mainly about minimizing your trust base of binary downloads. I think there was a nixcon talk about doing the same thing to gcc | 17:09:17 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | My recent PR rips it out entirely because it was broken, JDK 13/14 wouldn't build at all | 17:09:35 |
