| 18 Aug 2024 |
 Whovian9369 | wsl.exe --shutdown, add that, and try again? | 21:00:00 |
 K900 | Thank Microsoft for not shipping a cgv2-by-default kernel like three months after Ubuntu shipped it as a requirement | 21:00:16 |
| K900 | (and like multiple years after everyone else decided it was a good idea) | 21:00:28 |
| Whovian9369 | ╭─whovian@nixos-wsl ~
╰─$ sudo whoami
root
Okay cool, this is a good sign
| 21:02:34 |
| Whovian9369 | And the errors on every tab are magically gone, which means that all of the services are starting as I'd expect again.
Thank you so so much for the help and time, K900. | 21:03:12 |
| K900 | I just realized we can probably get better errors if we actually dup systemd logs to kmsg | 21:04:57 |
| K900 | CC @nzbr:nzbr.de | 21:05:02 |
| K900 | Oh never mind | 21:10:06 |
| K900 | systemd is trying to be smart | 21:10:10 |
| K900 | And write to /dev/console | 21:10:18 |
| K900 | And guess what WSL does to that | 21:10:23 |
| Whovian9369 | Then as a followup question, do you know if there's a way to automatically check for the .wslconfig entry (without reading the file directly) to warn a user to add it? | 21:11:49 |
| K900 | No | 21:11:58 |
| K900 | We basically have no user facing communication until after systemd | 21:12:13 |
| K900 | And when there's no systemd, there's also no after | 21:12:29 |
| K900 | Hopefully Microsoft will just fix it | 21:14:04 |
| K900 | After enough people update to Ubuntu 24.04 and explode | 21:14:16 |
| Whovian9369 | In reply to @k900:0upti.me
We basically have no user facing communication until after systemd I was thinking on nixos-rebuild or something. (Or other tests after systemd would launch to print "Hey, you may want to fix this...") | 21:15:36 |
| K900 | See the problem is all of those things work after systemd has launched | 21:17:57 |
| K900 | Which doesn't happen when things break | 21:18:08 |
| Whovian9369 | Fair enough, I guess that I was mistaken on what you initially meant. | 21:18:38 |
| K900 | There's also some group policy nonsense so it's hard to get the final config | 21:22:38 |
| K900 | We could try to detect it on upgrade | 21:22:48 |
| K900 | But that won't help new installs | 21:22:54 |
| K900 | Basically it's fucked | 21:23:00 |
| K900 | Microsoft is one kconfig line away from fixing it and they just haven't | 21:23:47 |
 nzbr (they/it) | In reply to @k900:0upti.me
I just realized we can probably get better errors if we actually dup systemd logs to kmsg I had that working on my canceled syschdemd rust-rewrite, so it should probably also be possible to pass the relevant option through the shim. I'll make an issue to look into that | 23:49:30 |
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