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 infinisil | I recently mentioned the thought of moving nix.dev to docs.nixos.org instead. While we can argue whether nix.dev or nixos.org should be the canonical domain, for now it's nixos.org, with only nix.dev out of line. So to achieve a single canonical domain, moving nix.dev to docs.nixos.org is much easier compared to moving nixos.org to nix.dev. | 17:40:59 |
| infinisil | Here's my comment on this: https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/issues/113#issuecomment-1906722707 | 17:41:06 |
| infinisil | And an RFC draft: https://github.com/nix-rfc-canonical-domain/rfcs | 17:41:18 |
| infinisil | Since nix.dev only really concerns the docs team, we can easily move it to docs.nix.dev without going through an RFC by just reaching consensus among the team | 17:42:26 |
| infinisil | I'll create an issue on the nix.dev repo for this | 17:43:25 |
| infinisil | danielsidhion: Unrelated to the above, relevant issue for you: https://github.com/NixOS/nix.dev/issues/423 | 17:45:41 |
| infinisil | In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
I'll create an issue on the nix.dev repo for this https://github.com/NixOS/nix.dev/issues/869 | 18:13:54 |
| 26 Jan 2024 |
 @qyriad:matrix.org | In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
I personally don't think they're as useful as they're made out to be, and would favor deprecating them They're missing a lot but also they're the only real place that explains callPackage which is essential to understanding Nixpkgs | 09:36:32 |
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 asymmetric | In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
Since nix.dev only really concerns the docs team, we can easily move it to docs.nix.dev without going through an RFC by just reaching consensus among the team i think you mean docs.nixors.org here? | 11:57:38 |
| asymmetric | In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
Since nix.dev only really concerns the docs team, we can easily move it to docs.nix.dev without going through an RFC by just reaching consensus among the team * i think you mean docs.nixos.org here? | 11:57:54 |
| infinisil | Ahh whoops, yes! | 11:58:09 |
| infinisil | * Since nix.dev only really concerns the docs team, we can easily move it to <del>docs.nix.dev</del> docs.nixos.org without going through an RFC by just reaching consensus among the team | 11:59:22 |
 @9999years:matrix.org | In reply to @qyriad:matrix.org
They're missing a lot but also they're the only real place that explains callPackage which is essential to understanding Nixpkgs i actually really like the nix pills. they're a gentle introduction to nix that does a good job at motivating why it's useful & bundles together writing nix expressions with nixpkgs architecture concepts | 17:53:00 |
| @qyriad:matrix.org | Yes very much agreed on that | 17:53:16 |
| @9999years:matrix.org | having helped a few people get started with nix recently, none of them have found the nix pills on their own though | 17:53:33 |
| @9999years:matrix.org | i would support rewriting the nix pills and moving them into a tutorial or getting started guide on nix.dev though | 17:53:51 |
| 27 Jan 2024 |
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 @jade_:matrix.org | In reply to @qyriad:matrix.org
They're missing a lot but also they're the only real place that explains callPackage which is essential to understanding Nixpkgs including in reference docs. there are no callPackage reference docs (!) | 00:12:03 |
| @jade_:matrix.org | 9999years wrote some docs for it but they were in a pr that was rejected for containing guide level docs | 00:12:52 |
| @jade_:matrix.org | (in nixpkgs) | 00:13:01 |
| @9999years:matrix.org | theoretically i could've moved them over to nix.dev but i don't think the signposting is good enough for anyone to find them yet | 00:13:49 |
| @9999years:matrix.org | i also want to get this resolved before adding more 'guide' material
https://github.com/NixOS/nix.dev/issues/845 | 00:21:33 |
 fricklerhandwerk | In reply to @jade_:matrix.org
9999years wrote some docs for it but they were in a pr that was rejected for containing guide level docs I actually started messing around with that and got stuck in a rabbit hole to refactor callPackage... | 02:09:23 |
| infinisil | In reply to @jade_:matrix.org
9999years wrote some docs for it but they were in a pr that was rejected for containing guide level docs This is the PR: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/270696
I think it's dishonest to call that rejected. I just said that part of that PR should go to nix.dev instead. I even mentioned that the content is looking good. | 03:45:53 |
| infinisil | Btw I'm fairly lenient with documentation (at least recently). I don't really care about how stuff is written down exactly. I just check some basic stuff like if it's in the right place, if it's correct, etc. As long as that's the case, I'm willing to merge doc changes | 03:52:45 |
