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9 Mar 2024
@soispha:vhack.euBenedikt joined the room.15:38:13
10 Mar 2024
@fgaz:matrix.orgfgazFYI I'm working on a phorge package and module, hopefully I'll publish it soon06:46:24
@adis:blad.is@adis:blad.isYou can't do that with Python specifically because of collisions07:00:34
@adis:blad.is@adis:blad.is To actually accomplish that for Python packages you need to get rid of dependency propagation 07:01:31
@adis:blad.is@adis:blad.isSee https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/272178 & https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/272179 in particular07:02:05
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@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)Add me as a reviewer! 😍13:24:55
11 Mar 2024
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@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil
In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org

Anyways I'll soon share the logs of that room, it's really not very exciting. In summary it's:

  • Getting everybody to approve two new members
  • Me using the @ room ping in that channel to easily ping all members and ask for a new meeting time after the members were accepted
  • Me lamenting about the team not working and drafting the announcement to dissolve it
nbp jonringer: Now uploaded the logs here if you're curious :)
16:18:01
@jonringer:matrix.org@jonringer:matrix.orgTransparency is always appreciated. Thank you.16:18:53
@jonringer:matrix.org@jonringer:matrix.org

I understand that doing candidate selection can be sensitive. I would be fine with some discretion. I think I was more advocating for a statement like,

The Nixpkgs Architecture team met, and unanimously decides to move foward with both candidates. We are happy to welcome <personA> and <personB> to our team.

If someone was passed over, just a civil statement as to why I think would suffice.

Sorry if my paranoia in some opaque community interactions spilled over into other teams.

16:31:11
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilYeah, I was only able to disclose it in full this time because nothing personal was being discussed, definitely shouldn't become standard16:38:39
@nbp:mozilla.orgnbpI second the feeling. Thanks for doing this extra effort and keeping the other channel on track.17:01:14
@nbp:mozilla.orgnbp * I second the feeling. Thanks for doing this extra effort and keeping the other channel on topic. 17:01:19
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil changed the room topic to "Discussions about Nixpkgs' architecture - https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/labels/architecture" from "https://nixos.org/community/teams/nixpkgs-architecture.html -https://www.youtube.com/@nixpkgs-architecture".17:06:51
12 Mar 2024
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14 Mar 2024
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@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Philip Taron (UTC-8): Just a minor comment: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/293901#discussion_r1525395621 19:34:13
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)Thanks! 👀19:34:45
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)

What's the reason behind using lib only for some fields but lib.<sublib> for others? E.g. attrNames comes from lib, but isDerivation comes from lib.attrsets, even though they're available in both.

Dang, I still struggle with this in lib. If there is a rhyme or reason for having some names be re-exported from lib vs. some names being only available in lib.sublib, I can't find it.

19:36:19
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilThere totally isn't 😅19:37:17
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil There's a problem with re-exporting everything, because of conflicts, but I agree this should be improved somehow 🤔 19:38:07
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilrelevant comment and reply: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/293835#pullrequestreview-192993701219:38:37
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8) This was the first PR I made against lib, so the historical reason is that I was trying to do the work by hand and I didn't have the script I later wrote to gather and use the names automatically. 19:39:05
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilHaha I see19:39:35
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8) I've formed a small bias towards the shortest path. So if a name is re-exported from lib, I'll use that. 19:39:58
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8) * Since I opened the PR, I've formed a small bias towards the shortest path. So if a name is re-exported from lib, I'll use that. 19:40:11
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Philip Taron (UTC-8): Sounds good to me 19:42:32

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