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4 Dec 2025
@capypara:matrix.orgCapypara

Hi! A user for a flake of mine uses macOS. Unfortunately I don't own a Mac, so I have no idea of the nix-darwin ecosystem. They get this error when running an activation script. nixpkgs is the latest nixos-25.11 (but a week old one had the same result):

       last 9 log lines:
       > Running phase: patchPhase
       > Running phase: updateAutotoolsGnuConfigScriptsPhase
       > Running phase: configurePhase
       > no configure script, doing nothing
       > Running phase: buildPhase
       > Traceback (most recent call last):
       >   File "/nix/store/5g45axkqi74cigpqpz3s9yayn80k6dv7-build-config.py", line 4, in <module>
       >     import yaml
       > ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'yaml'
       For full logs, run:
         nix log /nix/store/rs6nnmijyfhy9p4q1d1iyf2w4a2j9c44-riptide-build-config.drv
17:15:28
@capypara:matrix.orgCapypara

nativeBuildInputs & buildPhase:

    nativeBuildInputs = [
      (pkgs.python314.withPackages (python-pkgs: [
        python-pkgs.pyyaml
        python-pkgs.mergedeep
      ]))
    ];

    buildPhase = ''
      runHook preBuild
      python3 \
        $src \
        ${lib.escapeShellArg (builtins.toJSON cfg)} \
        ${hostsFile} \
        ./config.yml
      runHook postBuild
    '';
17:15:45
@capypara:matrix.orgCapyparaAnybody got an idea what the problem here could be?17:15:55
@leona:leona.isleonahttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/461884 fix will come in the next 1.5 weeks probably17:16:56
@capypara:matrix.orgCapyparaah okay! I thought those landed already, thanks!17:18:16
@leona:leona.isleonaAs nobody built something else, they need a full stdenv rebuild on darwin17:18:52
@capypara:matrix.orgCapyparaah! I see17:19:08
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeDarwin tries not to pull too much, but it needs Python during its bootstrap, which makes Python-related fixes into full rebuilds.19:23:11
@kfiz:matrix.sopado.dekfizYes. 22:25:52
@kfiz:matrix.sopado.dekfizI'll try this. Thanks.22:26:53
@toonn:matrix.orgtoonn .oO(Does Pypy change less often and is it capable enough?) 23:07:28
@toonn:matrix.orgtoonn (Just an intrusive thought : )) 23:07:47
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeIt’s a few versions behind CPython. The bootstrap story doesn’t look too bad. We would have to replace the top-level Python during the bootstrap.23:11:51
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeThere’s enough stuff that depends on CPython that updates have to go through staging anyway. It doesn’t seem worth the effort.23:12:29
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeSo PyPy, Rust, Go, Haskell, and what else all bootstrap from an upstream binary?23:14:01
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeBootstrapping Swift from source seems like doing it on hard mode.23:14:20
@toonn:matrix.orgtoonn Doesn't everything? Guix has GCC all the way from Mes but I don't think Nixpkgs does anything similar? 23:15:45
@toonn:matrix.orgtoonn I think with Swift the idea was more that since it's so recent it wasn't as difficult? 23:16:23
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrodenixpkgs doesn’t have it yet, but there is work being done on a minimal bootstrap.23:16:35
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeSwift assumes you have a Swift compiler handy. They restored building a C++-only bootstrap compiler, but it’s still buggy, and it doesn’t appear to be an intended bootstrap path on Darwin.23:17:43
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode * 23:17:54
@toonn:matrix.orgtoonn Self-hosting is fairly recent for Swift though, no? 23:18:59
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode I did eventually get the point of having a functional enough compiler to build a full Swift. I just have to remember from last time how I solved that @_noLock error. 23:19:04
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeThe Swift Compiler Driver is at least five years old, but it’s not required (yet). Macros were the first time a Swift compiler was required for the bootstrap. They’re only a couple of years old.23:27:21
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeBut in a couple of years Swift went from only needing a C++ compiler to also needing a Swift compiler.23:27:51
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeWriting Swift in Swift makes sense, but it makes a fully source-based bootstrap difficult (especially with how annoying it is to build).23:29:14
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeI could do Swift 5.10.1 via a private scope the compiler uses to build, but I’d also have to pin the SDK version to make it happen.23:30:45
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode * 23:31:00
5 Dec 2025
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeI think I disabled the bootstrapping mode, which isn’t supported anymore.04:05:49
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeIf I forcibly replace the bootstrapping0 compiler with the one from the bootstrap compiler, it works. That’s not very reassuring.04:39:09

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