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17 May 2024
@puck:puck.moepuck * (mind you, i miight've already done this~) 00:01:51
@qyriad:katesiria.orgQyriad no one external is using the C API right now I'm not sure if it matters or not 00:03:52
@puck:puck.moepuck
In reply to @puck:puck.moe
i think we'll likely break the C api but i have plans to try and convince robert
(we can probably have a convincing point if we have a nice API and proper rust/python bindings)
00:04:52
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothanyway, https://gerrit.lix.systems/c/lix/+/1151 enough rabbit hole for tonight00:06:53
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothalso first bug I fix in Lix which is actually a Nix bug and not a regression in Lix /hides00:07:27
@julia:the-apothecary.clubjuliaoh yeah for Gerrit if a change is all approved who presses the submit button? is it still one of the reviewers or is it supposed to be me00:13:19
@puck:puck.moepuckthe author, preferably00:13:47
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_author, yes00:14:04
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_it prevents the classic github blunder of not being able to decide as the submitter if you want to action a review00:14:34
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_unless you have merge rights. which is goofy!00:14:42
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_ (at my last employer people had merge rights and the practice was to self-merge with an approval for exactly this reason) 00:15:05
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_ * (at my last employer people had github merge rights and the practice was to self-merge with an approval for exactly this reason) 00:15:11
@julia:the-apothecary.clubjuliaah00:15:13
@qyriad:katesiria.orgQyriad This also means the author has the final say in whether their code is merged  00:15:50
@julia:the-apothecary.clubjuliaGerrit is so nice it makes so much more sense than GitHub/hitlab merge request workflow I can't believe I "got taught it" (read; died having group members learn it) at uni 00:16:11
@qyriad:katesiria.orgQyriad I know right  00:16:34
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothevery time I wonder if the gerrit workflow is actually better or if I've just been conditioned by 9+ years of Critique00:17:30
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothand then I think for 15s and realize that no, github actually really just sucks00:17:38
@puck:puck.moepuckyeah00:17:42
@puck:puck.moepucklike, gerrit reviews are so good, they nailed all of it by just .. replicating the email workflow but in a web ui00:17:56
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothdisagree: email workflow doesn't have the "resolved" bit00:18:23
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothwhich makes it greatly inferior00:18:28
@puck:puck.moepuckoh yes, that's fair00:18:30
@julia:the-apothecary.clubjuliaalso emails: [PATCH 1/25]00:18:57
@qyriad:katesiria.orgQyriad
In reply to @delroth:delroth.net
and then I think for 15s and realize that no, github actually really just sucks
yeah like I couldn't really be sure that gerrit is any good at all or if it's just that github review is just that far below reasonable 
00:20:10
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_
In reply to @delroth:delroth.net
and then I think for 15s and realize that no, github actually really just sucks
yeah, there were brief discussions on the forgejo channel about why we aren't using AGit on forgejo and my answer was just, it's not gerrit. it's totally fine that forgejo wants to be a gh clone, and we simply don't want that for reviews lol.
00:20:13
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_ forgejo arguably fixes some serious deficiencies in github's review system like pr dependencies, but it's still PR shaped and you still can't get one-commit history 00:20:51
@qyriad:katesiria.orgQyriad yup 00:21:13
@puck:puck.moepuck
In reply to @jade_:matrix.org
yeah, there were brief discussions on the forgejo channel about why we aren't using AGit on forgejo and my answer was just, it's not gerrit. it's totally fine that forgejo wants to be a gh clone, and we simply don't want that for reviews lol.
tbh i haven't tried the agit flow yet; i might set up a test repo for it, but i suspect it's pretty much not good enough; but might eb a reasonable way to do gerrit-style PRs to the non-lix lix projects
00:29:46
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_
In reply to @puck:puck.moe
tbh i haven't tried the agit flow yet; i might set up a test repo for it, but i suspect it's pretty much not good enough; but might eb a reasonable way to do gerrit-style PRs to the non-lix lix projects
it seems cute, but i think you can't push revisions with it? I'm not sure
00:30:04

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