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2 Jun 2024
@pennae:matrix.eno.space⚠️ eldritch horrors operating in this area ⚠️
In reply to @irenes:matrix.org
(assuming I survive etc lol)
readline-esque libraries as the opposite to life insurance?
20:40:30
@pennae:matrix.eno.space⚠️ eldritch horrors operating in this area ⚠️ honest question: why should we support, in lix itself, store relocation via chroot as is done now (ie, single-user instances placing the store in eg ~/.nix-store but substituting/building for it being at /nix/store and "fixing" that at runtime with linux namespace fuckery)
we'd argue this should be a "just pam_mount it" type deal
20:51:16
@irenes:matrix.org@irenes:matrix.org
In reply to@pennae:matrix.eno.space
readline-esque libraries as the opposite to life insurance?
hehe
21:07:36
@irenes:matrix.org@irenes:matrix.orgif pam_mount will let rpath and schebangs say /nix/store in them, then I personally don't see a need for one over the other21:08:13
@irenes:matrix.org@irenes:matrix.orgchroot is the more general mechanism I think? it allows more than one of those to coexist21:08:28
@irenes:matrix.org@irenes:matrix.orgbut I don't know the details of pam_mount21:08:34
@irenes:matrix.org@irenes:matrix.orgI can definitely think of cases involving testing or bring-up of other machines where I'd want more than one store, though it's ALMOST never needed21:09:02
@pennae:matrix.eno.space⚠️ eldritch horrors operating in this area ⚠️you can combine pam_mount and pam_namespace to do what the chroot helper thing does, but for an entire user session21:11:24
@irenes:matrix.org@irenes:matrix.orgoh neat!21:11:51
@irenes:matrix.org@irenes:matrix.orghm21:11:54
@irenes:matrix.org@irenes:matrix.orgshould it be tied to user sessions?21:11:58
@pennae:matrix.eno.space⚠️ eldritch horrors operating in this area ⚠️this is just unnecessary complexity that is rarely if ever used, and only supported on linux to begin with21:11:59
@irenes:matrix.org@irenes:matrix.orgisn't being able to do it per-invocation more flexible?21:12:09
@pennae:matrix.eno.space⚠️ eldritch horrors operating in this area ⚠️
In reply to @irenes:matrix.org
should it be tied to user sessions?
it doesn't hurt since every session gets the same mounts anyway
21:12:16
@pennae:matrix.eno.space⚠️ eldritch horrors operating in this area ⚠️
In reply to @irenes:matrix.org
isn't being able to do it per-invocation more flexible?
not if the setup is always the same
21:12:27

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