| 6 Mar 2026 |
 magic_rb | Ill send you some stuff, formatting as zfs isnt a fire and forget. You gotta make the right choices or youll regret it later | 08:50:41 |
 Crony Akatsuki | I also just backup them to a backblaze bucket | 08:50:46 |
| magic_rb | Ive got a pretty tuned setup at work, ill share once at a computer. (I just woke up) | 08:51:05 |
 focu5 | zfs snapshot and backup to a separate pool off machine is why I have my laptop using zfs even though it's 1 drive and doesn't have the error detection let alone correction | 08:51:05 |
| Crony Akatsuki | sure, tho will prob reformat tomorrow, since I got work in couple hours ( 10 hours shift + hour commute ) | 08:51:19 |
| focu5 | also zfs encryption | 08:51:21 |
| focu5 | it's just nice | 08:51:22 |
| magic_rb | Even on a single disk, you gain checksumming. Ext4 will happily give you corrupted data, zfs wont | 08:51:53 |
| magic_rb | And you could still enable data redundancy even on a single disk | 08:52:05 |
| magic_rb | Dont use that one personally. I always put zfs on top of LUKS | 08:52:21 |
| Crony Akatsuki | I love luks encryption + tpm2 unlock on my desktop | 08:53:12 |
| focu5 | it's been seamless, i have my nas root dataset passkey encrypted and other datasets encrypted by file keys that are in the root dataset | 08:53:24 |
| focu5 | * it's been seamless, i have my nas root dataset passkey encrypted and other pool datasets encrypted by file keys that are in the root dataset | 08:53:34 |
| focu5 | * it's been seamless, i have my nas root dataset password prompt encrypted and other pool datasets encrypted by file keys that are in the root dataset | 08:53:49 |
| magic_rb | I dont use it for 2 reasons:
- Metadata leaks
- LUKS has been independently audited, zfs has not
| 08:54:06 |
| Crony Akatsuki | that reminds me, gotta setup secure boot on my desktop again after the reinstall | 08:55:01 |
| focu5 |
- I am aware and leaking dataset properties and the name is fine
- Didn't know but it should be mostly fine? I don't have too many sensitive things
| 08:55:13 |
| focu5 | it does make snapshotting and backup easier if the encryption is a part of zfs | 08:56:07 |
| magic_rb | True, i just am too paranoid ig :) | 08:56:41 |
| 8 Mar 2026 |
| focu5 left the room. | 01:42:12 |
| focu5 joined the room. | 01:45:41 |
| Crony Akatsuki | magic_rb: I would like to start changing some ssd's on my system to a zfs filesystem today, have time to help? | 16:22:59 |
| magic_rb | sure | 16:23:16 |
| Crony Akatsuki | tnx, so first how do I go about getting zfs into my nixos setup ( as in bring it in since it's out of the tree ) | 16:24:13 |
| magic_rb | if you base your system on disko with a config such as https://github.com/nix-community/disko/blob/master/example/zfs.nix nixos will automatically figure out zfs is needed and pull it in | 16:28:53 |
| Crony Akatsuki | ahmy drives that I plan on moving to zfs rn are not inside of disko, but mounted using fileSystems.MountPoint | 16:30:45 |
| Crony Akatsuki | * my drives that I plan on moving to zfs rn are not inside of disko, but mounted using fileSystems.MountPoint | 16:30:51 |
| Crony Akatsuki | I don't have them inside disko becase they are not mounted always but only mounted when I need them, like when I'm running a backup for example | 16:35:15 |
| magic_rb | ah, then uh, https://search.nixos.org/options?channel=25.11&query=supportedFilesystems&show=boot.supportedFilesystems so
boot.supportedFilesystem = [ "zfs" ]; | 16:49:29 |
| 10 Mar 2026 |
|  amadaluzia joined the room. | 01:44:30 |
