| 12 Sep 2025 |
 verlannow | that works. Thanks a lot.
should this service not automatically try to restart?
I will do a restart and see if it automatically starts and works | 06:02:35 |
| verlannow | * that works. Thanks a lot.
should this service not automatically try to restart?
I will do a restart and see if it automatically starts and works
(this does automatically start as expected) | 06:04:59 |
|  @aidalgol:tchncs.de set a profile picture. | 09:21:37 |
 Sandro 🐧 | FYI https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/442349 | 11:58:58 |
 emily | wonder if we should just enable fwupd by default in general (or at least for graphical systems) | 12:06:57 |
| emily | pretty not good to not have a way to get firmware updated | 12:07:12 |
| emily | I guess we at least have microcode shipped separately but not UEFI | 12:07:29 |
| Sandro 🐧 | I tried enabling fwupd on a headless system and it has many GUI dependencies and is pretty big because of that | 12:08:49 |
| Sandro 🐧 | also in my experience only dbx gets updates on almost all of my devices. I had like 3 other updates in 5 years. So support is not that well. | 12:09:53 |
| Sandro 🐧 | but I would be fine to enable it by default in the plasma 6 module | 12:12:21 |
 Grimmauld (any/all) | it pulls pango/harfbuzz, but that is not what makes the closure large.
The problem is the fact it has a runtime dep on GCC via valgrind (i think) | 12:29:31 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | i mean i guess modemmanager is somewhat large, but at least on systems with NM that already exists | 12:31:32 |
 aloisw | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
pretty not good to not have a way to get firmware updated You still have to trigger the update manually. It doesn't seem like installation of fwupd is the weakest link here. | 15:23:03 |
 lun | idk if this matters but every time it runs it makes amd dgpus do a fan spin up spindown cycle | 15:24:05 |
| lun | * idk if this matters but every time it runs it makes amd dgpus that were otherwise suspended do a fan spin up spindown cycle | 15:24:26 |
| aloisw | "it" being the update checking command? I guess it needs to power on the card to read its firmware version. | 15:26:42 |
| lun | The scheduled check for updates one (fwupd-refresh?) iirc. It's not really avoidable but it might be an annoyance if it was defaulted on for some laptop users | 15:28:53 |
| lun | well it is avoidable but it's not fwupd's fault or avoidable on its side, amdgpu needs to be less silly about this and there's been a fix a few times on the list and it's never been applied so this'll presumably stay broken forever | 15:29:49 |
| Sandro 🐧 | I think it would require to create a libnm to make it smaller | 15:43:39 |
| Sandro 🐧 | I only know RedHat which has NM on headless systems... | 15:43:49 |
 K900 | Splitting libnm would be nice actually | 15:44:31 |
| K900 | Because Jovian needs 32 bit libnm | 15:44:35 |
| Sandro 🐧 | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/241762 ? | 15:48:29 |
| Sandro 🐧 | * I started something small a while ago in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/241762 | 15:48:36 |
| 13 Sep 2025 |
| @aidalgol:tchncs.de | I have a python GTK application that is not dark themed. It appears to be using GTK 4.
(process:2118965): Gtk-WARNING **: 16:52:06.282: Unknown key gtk-modules in /home/aidan/.config/gtk-4.0/settings.ini
| 04:58:21 |
| @aidalgol:tchncs.de | 
Download image.png | 04:59:00 |
| @aidalgol:tchncs.de | My Plasma GTK settings seem... wrong. | 04:59:15 |
| @aidalgol:tchncs.de | If I click the dropdown menu, there is a single option "Breeze". | 04:59:38 |
| @aidalgol:tchncs.de | Do I need to add a dark GTK theme package to my system config? | 05:00:08 |
| aloisw | Have there been Qt-related changes in the last staging-next? Nheko now doesn't show replies properly any more and the context menus open in the top left corner. | 08:02:38 |
